T. Belman. This is a very important article because it shows the bullshit Obama fed us justifying the bombing of Libya which mirrored the bullshit Bill Clinton fed us to justify bombing Serbia. It really was disgusting.
Felix Quigley and others encouraged me to study what happened in Serbia before and after Clinton bombed it. Francisco Gil-White wrote about it here. Just as there was no justification for Obama to destroy Libya, there was no justification for Clinton to bomb Serbia. They made it all up.
By Jack Cashill, AMERICAN THINKER
Last week, in one incident, as many as 180 men, women and children drowned when the boat carrying them capsized off the Libyan coast. “Libya is a major transit route for migrants hoping to make it to Europe,” reported Reuters. “Smuggling networks exploit the country’s lawlessness and chaos.”
What Reuters did not explain, at least in any detail, is “why Libya?” In this, Reuters was hardly unique. The same media that gleefully blamed Iraq’s post-Saddam disorder on George Bush refuse to even address the question of who is to blame for the “lawlessness and chaos” in post-Qaddafi Libya.
If the media were curious, they might want to review President Obama’s address to the nation in late March 2011. “We knew that if we . . .waited one more day,” said Obama, “Benghazi, a city nearly the size of Charlotte, could suffer a massacre that would have reverberated across the region and stained the conscience of the world.”
“I refused to let that happen,” added Obama in a radio address soon after. Instead, he authorized military action “to stop the killing.” Less than two months earlier, Obama had not so much as mentioned Libya in his State of the Union address.
Libya had been pretty much out of the news in America since 2003 when its strongman ruler, Muammar el-Qaddafi, was persuaded to abandon his WMD program. He stayed on reasonably good terms with the United States in the succeeding years. In April 2009, in fact, el-Qaddafi’s son Mutassim had a cordial meeting with Hillary Clinton in Washington. “We deeply value the relationship between Libya and the United States,” Hillary told the press with the tall, western-looking young man standing beside her.
In March 2011, the good will el-Qaddafi had mustered suddenly lost all value. Obama asked America to believe we were going to war to prevent a Rwanda-sized stain on “the conscience of the world.”
If Obama had studied the 1999 Kosovo action — and Hillary was there to help him — he would have known how the media would react if a Democrat president launched an unauthorized air war. At that time, to hold the country together, Yugoslavian authorities were attempting to suppress an insurrection by Islamic Albanians in the Kosovo province.
Like Obama, President Bill Clinton had not bothered getting congressional approval before sending our planes in. To bolster public support, Clinton and his people began a drumbeat about mass graves, ethnic cleansing and even genocide. As in Libya, there was no other reason for the war other than to prevent genocide.
President Clinton compared the work of the Serbs in Kosovo to the German genocide of the Jews during the Holocaust and assured America that “tens of thousands of people” had been murdered. In the war’s wake, however, international teams could find no signs of genocide anywhere. Spanish forensic surgeon Emilio Perez Pujol would tell the British Sunday Times that the talk of genocide was “a semantic pirouette by the war propaganda machines, because we did not find one — not one — mass grave.”
For the Libyan conflict, Alan Kuperman, a professor of public affairs at the University of Texas, did the calculations the media refused to do. Writing in the Boston Globe just two weeks after the President’s address on Libya, Kuperman made the simple point, “The best evidence that Khadafy did not plan genocide in Benghazi is that he did not perpetrate it in the other cities he had recaptured.”
As Kuperman also noted, the ubiquitous cell phone cameras failed to capture any images of a massacre. Not exactly a Republican partisan, Kuperman previously served as a legislative assistant to Democrat House Speaker Tom Foley and legislative director for then Congressman Chuck Schumer.
As Kuperman explained, rebel forces, fearing imminent defeat, followed the Kosovo playbook and faked a humanitarian crisis. In March 2011, The New York Times’s David Kirpatrick reported, “The rebels feel no loyalty to the truth in shaping their propaganda, claiming nonexistent battlefield victories, asserting they were still fighting in a key city days after it fell to Qaddafi forces, and making vastly inflated claims of his barbaric behavior.”
Leading as he did “from behind,” Obama had to know the pretext for war was false, but he would continue to pursue it for another six deadly months. As 2011 sped by, the insurgency dragged on, and the only sure casualty was the truth.
In October 2011, NATO planes attacked a convoy among whose passengers was a desperate el-Qaddafi. The militia members took the aging chieftain prisoner, indelicately sodomized him with a knife, and recorded it all on video. This was not quite the image of a new Libya Obama and Clinton were hoping to project, but it was the shape of things to come.
Still, the White House carried on as if no one had seen the video. Said Obama in a Rose Garden speech, “The dark shadow of tyranny has been lifted.” He and Clinton championed the victors and made Libya their personal success story.
The biggest misconception about NATO’s intervention,” wrote Kuperman, “is that it saved lives and benefited Libya and its neighbors.” In fact, Qaddafi did not attack peaceful protesters. The rebels started the violence, and Qaddafi responded. Barely six weeks after the rebellion started, Qaddafi had all but suppressed it at the cost of about one thousand lives.
Then Clinton and Obama blessed NATO’s intervention, one that prolonged the war seven months and cost roughly seven thousand more lives. During the insurrection, the Obama administration had been funneling money to Qatar to help arm Libyans rebels. As the New York Times reported, “The weapons and money from Qatar strengthened militant groups in Libya, allowing them to become a destabilizing force since the fall of the Qaddafi government.”
The fall of el-Qaddafi, these groups, many of them with a strong Islamic bent, refused to disarm and continued to resist government authority. In the midst of this mess, in early April 2011, American special representative Chris Stevens arrived in Libya on board a Greek freighter. Obama and Clinton would reward his loyalty and courage with the most disturbing lies of their relentlessly dishonest careers.
After the murder of Stevens and three other Americans, Libya continued to fracture. As of today, several militia groups compete with each other to see who can impose sharia law most thoroughly. Lately, they have been too busy storming the Parliament, seizing hostages, and attacking foreign consulates to bother themselves patrolling for human traffickers.
As the death toll mounts and as the migrant crisis in Europe worsens, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton can take perverse comfort in knowing they will be held blameless. Such is the incredible lightness of being a Democrat.
Felix Quigley Said:
ever hear of a dictionary… google a few, dont be lazy… simply input the letters CHAOS followed by the word definition. Does your mummy still wipe your posterior after a poo or are you able to handle the big job yourself? C’mon felix do your homework and dont ask others to educate you
also, I am still waiting for you to enumerate why Israelis should embrace trotskyism and what the relevance to Israel and the Jews is…. I have been waiting a long time but I notice that when you dont like to answer questions you act as if they were never asked….. which is why I wonder at your expectation of getting your questions answered.
Felix Quigley Said:
you appear to have a problem focusing or remembering, try ritalin. I already dealt with your questions in the last two forums pages, apparently you like to pretend that some things never happened, go back and re read with more focus… the prime gist was that you first answer the questions that i asked you as to why to keep advising jews to support the anti semite assad rather than enjoy the anti semites killing each other; I asked whether coptics and/or yazidis have a history of anti semitism (I noticed that you stopped asking about copts)…. there was also comment on my priority on commenting… primarily a priority of Jewish interest.
Stop repeating yourself like an alzheimers patient
Ah Bernard still looking for that chaos in the Arab and Muslim world but I am still waiting on how you feel about the enslavement of Yazedi girls and the blowing up of pre-Islamic human heritage as in Palmira in Syria (most recent I believe is Temple of Bel)
You have used the word “chaos” among the enemies of the Jews before Bernard so I should ask what you mean by chaos? Define it! You like it in your enemies so better define it for us lesser beings who cannot see so far into the future as you?
Eric R. Said:
the warnings are much clearer this time than last…. Jews must get out before the muslims and euros have their arab spring.
Bernard:
I largely agree with you that the disintegration of Libya and Syria are largely good things from Jewish perspective, and especially in the case of Syria, I hope that the fighting goes on for 50,000 years until all sides (except maybe the Kurds) eliminate each other.
As for Libya, this is truly a Nazi country that massacred hundreds of Jews and later drove out EVERY LAST ONE – the country has been truly Judenrein for 15 years – and as seems to happen to countries that destroy their Jews, the sickness devours the natives when there are no more Jews left to blame. I hope they too, suffer at war for 50,000 years.
I also have a great sense of Schaudenfreude that the Europeans have to deal with this influx — this is truly the “Camp of the Saints” come to life. Every Muslim refugee vs. native European battle is an example of divine/cosmic justice.
My one concern is that these refugees do have one thing in common with the native Euro-scum — their insatiable, psychotic, insatiable, irrational, genocidal hatred of Jews. This will just intensify the attacks on Jews, making pogroms and massacres a certainty.
Yes, I know — all the Israelis say that this is what European Jews get for being foolish enough to stay there. But frankly, enough Jewish blood has been spilled in that filthy sewer of a continent. No matter who f’s up, Jews get the brunt of the hatred.
this article never mentioned Lockerbie dead, it never mentioned ghaddafi oil money financing farakhan and jew hatred. it also doesnt mention that much of the muslim funding against Israel and Jews originates with the man on the street in muslim nations.
The comparison with Serbia is absurd… the most important fact which colors everthing is left out: the muslims. The muslims are engaged in global jihad and therefore it should have been obvious that the taquiyya honor killers would be lying in Serbia. In Libya the honor killers were attacking each other. Therefore, the desired outcome for anti semitic muslim nations is disorder, chaos, etc in order to ensure their inability to pursue or fund Jihad with oil money. Whereas the opposite should nave been desired for serbia. There is no equation between outcomes desired for muslims who globally wreak havoc and outcomes desired for others. Unless of course one believes they have no interest in who emerges victorious.
the question should be who is to get the medal.
no blame, a medal for rendering an anti semitic cesspool into a killing field.
Perhaps for the naive. when arab spring appeared mysteriously to involve mainly nations on the med and qatar the natural gas expert was negotiating with Israel to develop gaza, I surmised that perhaps they knew that there was tons of gas all around the med basin. the recent “discovery” in egypt makes me wait with anticipation for which find is next.
this article is like moaning about Hitler betraying stalin.. like why should I care that genocidal maniacs are killing each other? They deserve it. As for the people, I seem to remember many muslim parades shouting death to the Jews. My gut tells me that a majority of muslims in those nations are anti semitic.
so now we are asked to weep for ghadaffi and the libyans? didnt he shoot a plane out of the sky? Wasnt he another one seeking the destruction of Israel and the jews? Isnt this just one more muslim nation of wannabe jew killers? Shouldn’t anti semites suffer and die?
Here is the next set of anti semites to suffer:
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/09/01/islamic-state-terrorists-caught-crossing-into-europe-posing-as-refugees/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/11836310/EU-migration-crisis-live.html
As a college student, Hillary idolized Arafat. She remains a virulent anti-Semite:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/259984/huma-abedin-printed-out-great-islamophobic-daniel-greenfield#.VeW1huNgNMo.twitter
The Weiner- Huma relationship is surrealistic. The daughter of Muslim Brotherhood parents and a liberal Jew. Surrealistic on her part, that is. Liberal Jewish affinity for anti-Semites is well documented.
Those folk sense no personal jeopardy as consequence of the intentional sabotage or stupid actions they trigger.
No jeopardy, no risk and then all out disasters are all in the new way of governing.