As a member of the right-wing camp, I will not apologize for things I did not do. The criminal acts of last week have been properly condemned by our country’s leaders. I will not let the hostile media and manipulative politicians tear Israeli society apart by promoting their narrow agendas, which have been rejected by voters time and time again.
Media mouthpieces of the socialist Left will not force me to beg for forgiveness for murders committed by serial offenders and wicked individuals. Even demonstrations attended by hundreds, which the media turned into thousands, will not compel me to change the foundations of my ideology, an ideology based on the Ten Commandments, including, “Thou shalt not kill.”
I have never heard the leaders of the Left apologize for the thousands of deaths caused by the cursed Oslo Accords. Yasser Arafat and Mahmoud Abbas, the Left’s “partners for peace,” never condemned the murder of Jewish children in Israel. The Left did not hold demonstrations when 4-year-old Adele Biton died of wounds inflicted by a Palestinian stone thrower or when hiker Danny Gonen was brutally shot dead by a Palestinian gunman near a spring in Samaria.
I reject with utmost disgust the obsequious statements made by a rabbi or two who have been deemed by the media as representatives of religious Zionism. They do not represent me and I doubt they represent their synagogues. The media, as usual, has given a platform to rabbis who parrot the media’s worldview and assign collective blame on anyone who wears a kippah.
I am revolted by the words the big loser of the last election, Zionist Union leader Isaac Herzog. Without blinking, Herzog sought to portray the perpetrator of the stabbings at Jerusalem’s Gay Pride Parade — the anti-Zionist Yishai Schlissel — as a member of the right-wing camp.
I feel the same revulsion toward other politicians who seek to exploit human tragedies to boost their political statuses. For some reason, they believe this will pay off for them.
I have contempt for the media personalities who have used last week’s serious events to create the impression that things have spun out of control in our country. Despite the gloom and doom sown by the leftist media, the Left will continue to lose elections, as, in reality, the State of Israel is flourishing.
Since its bitter loss in the last election, the specialty of the Left has been to propagate dissension and factionalism, all in the name of freedom of expression, which, of course, applies only to the Left’s views.
But the Left will not succeed in replacing the people of Israel, who have distanced themselves light-years away from the Left and all that it represents. At this time, with the Left conducting a concentrated assault on the Right, it would be wise for the Right to allow the storm to pass. We must not respond to provocations and we must continue fulfilling the grand vision of the return to Zion, which includes respect for human dignity.
We feel true grief about the loss of life — unlike others who, perhaps, thrive on grief.
@ RandyTexas:
Pork green chili over potato lakas ?
honeybee Said:
He just didn’t know where to go. You can get anything in Israel.
yamit82 Said:
Trotsky couldn’t find pork Chalupas in Israel.
@ Felix Quigley:
How Ironic that if that Jew hating SOB had moved to Israel instead of Mexico he probably would have survived Stalin. Yet how nice to see another Jew hating piece of shit bite the dust. 😛 😛 😛
Felix Quigley Said:
LOL, sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me….. especially from an anachronistic “troksyite”(whatever that may be). calling me names does not relieve you from the questions posed for which you apparently NEVER have an answer. You daily advise Israelis to convert to trotskyism but you have NEVER told them or posters here why they should convert, why trotsky is relevant to Israel, of what benefit is converting to trotskyism to Israelis???????
I assume you are claiming that you are not a “phillistine” and yet you are NEVER able to explain to posters here the basis for your preaching the adoration of trotsky to them. I can see why you need to tell me to STFU as I am drawing attention to your lack of scholarship.
does the government and citizenry of Israel believe that arabs, or anyone, scrawling some hebrew words on a wall is sufficient evidence for believing the act was performed by settlers or Jews and sufficient reason to incarcerate indefinitely those without trial or indictment? I find it astounding that those in and out of government have bought into this MO. Even after a conviction there is no evidence that it is more than an individual criminal act. Israelis should be afraid of their government in its incompetence and dishonesty. No evidence of any violent conspiracy of Jews exists other than that which the shin bet will fabricate. Why isnt Bennett and Shaked opposing the incarceration bill, do they really believe the threat is from Jews?
Felix Quigley Said:
I somewhat agree, and i am disappointed that they have not raised their voice accordingly. Even “extremist” settlers act more in civil disobedience, protest and vandalism at most and individual acts of violence are as rare as individual criminal behavior. Hence, the gov reaction to immediately target right wing settlers is dishonest and they should raise their voices accordingly. ettinger is in jail to cover gov incompetence and failure of leadership. If the gov is willing to jail people unrelated with no evidence then they will be willing to frame someone to cover their incompetence, and more so if the demonization of settlers helps a program of withdrawal from YS.
I do not agree with the notion that jewish settlers and west bank arabs should be equally treated as I do not consider jewish settlers an enemy whereas I do the west bank arabs. they are a collective enemy and must be subject to harsher measures. By targeting the settlers “equally” as arab terrorists perhaps they seek some appeasement just as Breaker Morant was the UK sacrifice to the boers. shaked as justice minister has a responsibility to stand agianst that MO and Benett as identified with keeping YS should also.
as a side note I find it odd that Dayan is being sent to Brazil as he is also connected with the settlement enterprise.
I would keep quiet about it then. In other words Bernard if you dont know shut the fxxk up! Ignorance should never be celebrated! You are a real philistine!
It seems to me that you are excusing them. You are saying Bennett is supportive and Shaked means well.
In fact I take a different view entirely. In the stakes of traitors they are the very worst.
It is Bennett and Shaked who are providing the cover for the imprisonment of the grandson of Meir Kahane.
This latter event has been hidden by the Israeli conservative establishment.
Felix Quigley Said:
here is the short answer:
1- I dislike the left and the right, I dislike ideologues and their ideologies. They confuse theory with reality, apples and oranges. I deal with their behavior as their proclaimed philosophies are irrelevant to their behavior. Did you notice the alliance of the socialists with the muslims in attacking Israel on all fronts?
2- You omitted Stalinism, Maoism and PolPotism from your list of the leftists that the world sees.
3- I have no idea what trotsyism is nor why it has relevance, nor how it is different from other socialist and communist ideologies AND behaviors.
4- I agree with some concepts of both left and right. I have here attacked the left and the right. the terms left and right can be misleading when it comes to specific issues but with regards to Israel the socialist positions are usually clear
Felix Quigley Said:
I attack your specific advice,assertions first. the ideologies tend tobe irrelevant red herrings bearing little resemblance to behavior of left or right ideologues. I tease you on your trotskyism because you regularly raise it as a panacea when most folks today have no clue about what it even is. It is to most folks an unknown arcane segment of socialism/communism. perhaps instead of calling for its implementation you should first show how it is relevant according to factual history as opposed to theoretical principles, both of which are relatively unknown.
Felix Quigley Said:
I do not remember seeing their attacks. I saw Benett complain about blaming the settlers. In any case I have repeatedly described Benetts condition as that of a eunuch and although shaked may mean well she is in the same ineffectual postion. It is Rivlin, BB, Yaalon, and even Erdan who are in the pivotal roles whereby instead of advising responsibly and collecting the evidence on the Duma security cams timely before it is wiped clean….. instead… they all colluded in an apparently intentional orchestrated campaign of settler and dissenter demonization. They rounded up “the usual suspects” for incarceration, torture and the inevitable frameup because thay must cover up their incompetence and dishonesty.
There is no possibility that the same Junta, who immediately jumped on a lynch mob pogrom bandwagon of settlers and right wing dissenters, can conduct a competent, professional, unbiased, impartial investigation based on the responsibe collection of factual evidence. Their rush to judgement has already compromised the evidence in allowing the uncooperative DUMA “witnesses” to erase the evidence of the likely false flag. This should have been done immediately but instead the junta wasted the time to seize the opportunity to incarcerate fake suspects and dissenters. If this despicable lynch mob behavior is not a dishonest fraud but is instead merely a knee jerk reaction of failed incompetent leadership we are still in trouble.
lost a post just there. I was tryign to say left may not be the right term here, the key figures in htis repression of the youth are the great right wingers Bennett and Shaked
Bernard Ross
You really do not like the left. When people in the world think of the Word left they think always of socialism, socialists, marxists, Trotskyists.
So every time you use the term you are attacking me who am all of those things.
But there is one other thing about all of this staged invective against extremisma nd against htese youth being arrested which you seem to have totally omitted. A big factor in all of this is that Bennett anbd Shaked are at the centre of these attacks on these youth in Judea and Samaria.
It is strange to me that you omit that and in the above you have very definitely and maybe even deliberately omitted their role.
the left wing is in a blood frenzy demanding a lynch mob pogrom from the government against settlers and the right wing dissenters. If an Israeli Pinochet ascends to power and a lynch mob pogrom is then demanded of the left will they then whine, wail and seek sympathy for their just and deserved fate?
The hatred of the Israeli left is the prime source of global anti semitism to day. Just like Goebbels and the Rwandan radio inciter, they are guilty of blood libel and incitement to genocide. Those burned by arab arsonists since the attack were incited directly by the false lynch mob accusations of the Israeli left. They pointed a finger of blame without evidence in order to incite murder. They are guilty of murder and should be the first to be brought to trial for incitement, not the right wing dissenters.
We need to know more about whether the family arson was part of this feud? the lone settler who brought out the truth is the ONLY reliable source of information.
the rush to jump on a lynch mob bandwagon demanding the blood of any right wing settlers has, as I predicted, severely compromised the possibility of a competent , unbiased investigation. it is likely that any evidence pointing to an arab false flag has already been wiped from the cameras due to gov incompetence and poor leadership. furthermore, it appears that there may be arab witness collusion in the false flag. This arab false flag price tag fabrication is rife with all the obvious signs of either collusion or fear. either the arab witnesses collaborated voluntarily in the false flag or they are in fear of who perpetrated the false flag and thus blame the settlers. A family feud, the PA, hamas, iranian elements… these are the MOST likely perpetrators who scrawled Jewish symbols to blame the Jews.
Can an ego driven gov drunk on consolidating power against settlers and dissenters be trusted to find the real culprits or will they continue to invest in the lie to their own advantage and to cover their incompetence and lack of responsible leadership? Lets see if the truth comes out on this massive lie
Expressing sorrow would be one thing, however, apologizing or expressing shame will not be taken as a statement of regret, but as an admission of guilt. That is like asking for a violent act of revenge. Statements should show concern and be directed toward the investigation, not a defensive emotional reflex.
It is absurd for those who celibrate the murderers of Jewish children and teach their children that jews are the sons of apes and pigs, to whine and wail about their childrens death
In its usual insane way the Israel government can’t wait to cry mea culpa when there is no evidence to support Israeli guilt. It just wants to be like the rest of the world and say yes we have our bad guys but we deal with them. Just another indication of this sick syndrome of wanting to be loved and accepted by those who hate Israel and Jews.
the key is for the gov to end muslim atacks on Jews, police attacks on jews and settlers…. it is predictable that in the absence of their action, towards injustice to Jews, frustration will boil over. The leadership joining a lynch mob will only fuel the perspective that their motives are dishonest. Muslim attacks and incitement must end, that is the cause.
more like a specialty of blood libel which ends with the murder of Jewish children in france. these leftists who tell lies are no better than the medieval blood libelists. Their lies end in Jewish death. In the same way that the ICC tried and convicted a Rwandan radio announcer of incitement to genocide so should these hateful leftist liars be broght to justice and indicted for incitement. rivlin also jumped on the lynch mob incitement bandwagon, but worse than incitement is the political apparatus who seized the opportunity to impose administrative detention and torture on nationalists and settlers: Rivlin, BB, Yaalon, Erdan.. all telling lies, all libeling all part of the demonization of nationalists and settlers without a shred of evidence to support them and in the face of obvious evidence to the contrary. What is their motive?
Me, either.
this is obviously NOT Jewish settlers. why were these houses deep in the village chosen?????? a price tag would be a random act at the nearest point of convenience. why would they expose themselves to capture deep in the village??? Is everyone insane, this is a murder covered up with a red herring.
I fear most the Israeli leadership who insanely ignores all the logical obvious evidence in order to target settlers and to implement gestapo detention, allow torture of jews…. in order to quash dissent, incite against settlers as a softening up to give away YS.