The only way he can remain in office after heis term limit is up is if there is an extreme national emergency. Now what do you expect to happen so extreme or catastrophic to keep him in power???
Extending by law presidential term limits with a Republican house and Senate is a non starter.
These thoughts give no pleasure. I worry for my friends and family, for this beautiful planet. God help us all.
@ D. Bene: Agree. Those in government and in the media are privy to information and document; and they are silent. Changes and persons that would destroy freedom and subvert the nation have been ALLOWED to be put into place, Look how quickly and easily Boston was “closed down”. All that is needed is an artificial crisis.
Pointing out were people are wrong in their points of view (e.g. giving up land like Gaza resulting in three wars) can be more beneficial than personal or class attacks.
libelers spreading false propaganda need to see the extent of the damage they cause Jews, they cannot be mollycoddled into thinking it is merely a matter of disagreement of ideas. Whether leftist or black hatters there are existential dangers in spreading libels and they must be held responsible for their murders.
We need to be united as people to progress to our potential not tear each other down is the point!
You confuse perpetrators with idealogues. Politicians creating Oslo and still pushing it are informed perpetrators of Jewish murder. The same is true of gideon levy and amira hass who spread libels and propaganda which result in dead jews. The naturei karta who cavort and dance with Jew killers are also themselves Jew killers disguised as Jews. Belief is one thing but taking action which results in dead Jews is murder. Spreading libels about Jews whether from leftists or Jews is murder because libels always preceded pogroms. Murderers and attempted murderers should be brought to justice… the same with manslaughter and attempted manslaughter. there are various forms of justice…e.g. the BDS churches libeling and stalking the jews are causing the heads of christians to be chopped off by the same honor killers they fund and support… this is ironic or divine justice.
Pointing out were people are wrong in their points of view (e.g. giving up land like Gaza resulting in three wars) can be more beneficial than personal or class attacks.
Many Israelis who were for the Oslo process are now against it. Pointing why the beliefs are wrong in lieu of calling them viles has a better chance of positive change.
there is a difference between those with points of view who do not have all the info or are brainwashed by the GOI and those who know whats going on and create the events that kill Jews. Peres and Livni know and create the events that kill jews and still try to push Jews to accept Oslo.
@ yamit82:
The Maccabees era is fascinating not only on their side but also regarding the Kingdoms or Empires involved as well. At the end of the period, the Roman Empire also came into play by invitation of the, pro Roman,(Esau’s seed), Jewish renegades. Remarkable in all the historical research that I have read I found no mention of “palistines”.
We need to be united as people to progress to our potential not tear each other down is the point!
Tearing each other down is a Jewish tradition. You want to spoil our fun???
Davar Torah:
Vayikra (lev) 19:16-18
“…. neither shalt thou stand idly by the blood of thy neighbour
17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thy heart; thou shalt surely rebuke thy neighbour, and not bear sin because of him.
18 Thou shalt not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am HaShem.
What does “thou shalt surely rebuke thy neighbour, and not bear sin because of him.” mean to you????
Lest one forget, a member of Shas’s Council of Torah Sages just last year called the national-religious party Habayit Hayehudi (Jewish Home) party a “home of non-Jews.” Indeed, he asked a laughing crowd “Are these people even Jews? We would be unfortunate to end up with a [chief] rabbi who wears a knit kippa.” He said “The [heavenly] throne is not complete when Amalek exists,” and “As long as there’s a knit kippa, the throne is not complete (reference to a well-known midrash based on the word for throne that in the biblical story of Amalek, is written missing a letter, ed.). That’s Amalek … When will the throne be complete? When there’s no knitted kippa.”
Describing knitted-kippa wearers as Amalek speaks for itself.
There’s more to being religious than praying – ethics, honesty, and love of our fellow Jew are also necessities. Truly religious people have values and beliefs – a core value system which stands for something.
Leaders – from all political parties – should be concerned about the State and people of Israel.
We need to be united as people to progress to our potential not tear each other down is the point!
@ Bear Klein:
The least I expect from those folk are apologies and self removal from all functions of state. Followed by stern application of Jewish laws against mosrim.
Failing that, no dice. I will not ever forgive those that knowingly caused death and mayhem.
Introducing, importing, arming and feeding enemies is not in the realm of political discourse. They committed ghastly acts and must pay.
After the Oslo principals serve jail terms we can talk. They knowingly sent our people to be made into “victims of peace”.
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2: Pointing out were people are wrong in their points of view (e.g. giving up land like Gaza resulting in three wars) can be more beneficial than personal or class attacks.
Many Israelis who were for the Oslo process are now against it. Pointing why the beliefs are wrong in lieu of calling them viles has a better chance of positive change. May not happen in many cases but certainly happens in some. Acting towards them like they are creatures from the evil planet will be divisive.
There is strong circumstantial evidence that the same Hellinists prodded the King Antiochus III to issue the anti Jewish (judaism) edicts which prompted the initial revolt.
No wonder that there ensued a bitter bloody civil war. The civil war is the real story of Chanukah. If the Jewish Zealots had lost there would be no Jews, Judaism, christianity or Islam today. Our world would look very different today and not for the better.
Jews have had several civil wars in our history and we even had the Siccarrim
@ Bear Klein:
Regrettably that, to be true, must work two ways. If certain people attack specifically Jews, Jewish Heritage and rights it is our obligation to identify that person or group as an enemy.
We must not offer the other cheek any longer.
One must utterly reject being their “victims of peace”.
That element must be ejected from the core up.
@ Ted Belman:
And we agree. Hellenists were former Jews that reneged Judaism and embraced Greek culture and paganism. They did remove Jewish services from the Temple and introduced Greek deities instead.
Ergo, Hellenism was a specific term applicable to that era.
Today, the same type of renegade Jews focus on being Goyim adopting to that effect different configurations not akin to Greek culture so I created a universal call card for them. unJews.
Some unJews prefer the German culture, others the Spanish way of life, some rather settle in Norway and Oslo being their home culturally, others attach themselves to the newfangled USA social structures and beliefs. The religion of liberalism some call it.
From the religious stand point the unJews only shed Judaism while cowardly remaining in the nether regions of the uncommitted while in many cases adopting Christian customs including but not limited to Christmas trees for example, others such as Peres become subservient to the Vatican, others such as Beinish entered the world of Wagner’s cultural sphere, As one can see modern renegades direct themselves into not being Jewish while not universally adopting one of the many other social and cultural settings.
I wonder if passing judgment on other Jews as classes of people is very constructive or just divisive! What good does it do but divide and alienate. Both Leftists and Rightists do this in Israel and in the Diaspora.
I wonder what the Torah wise men would say? I wonder what the truly liberal would say who believe in inclusiveness.
Since there’s so much that we’ll never know about another person, any attempt to pass judgement on him or her seems doomed to failure. In the words of the Talmud, “Do not judge your fellow until you have reached his place.” What the Talmud is really saying, I suspect, is, “Don’t judge your fellow, ever,” since “his place” is a place where you can never truly be.
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
Hellenists at the time were Jews who embraced Greek culture and abandoned Jewish religion and culture. I(t seems to me that who you call unjews have also abandonned the Jewish state and have embraced the western norms or culture.
Those that are running the show, will not give up easily.
I agree. I do believe that once Obama leaves office much of the truth will come out be accepted due to no choice by the American media and the greatest constitutional crisis since the American civil war will ensue.
Not sure America can withstand what’s coming as the damage to constitutionalism will be so great.
One must realize that many immigrants to Israel over the years who did not come voluntarily but were brought to Israel in many cases to escape persecution or worse were never Zionists, never loyal to the State and in many cases worked feverishly against the state. Many over the years left but many assumed primary positions in our national and cultural institutions. They have set the general tone since 1948. Not because they constitute a majority but due to undue influence based on their positions even though a small minority.
German Jewish immigration from 1938 to 1940 are a prime example. They behave more like anti Jewish sectarians than loyal Jews or patriotic Israelis.
@ Ted Belman:
I coined the term to apply to pseudo Jews. Genetically they have been born Jewish but in fact they abandoned the responsibilities that go with that and adopted, are in favor of foreign interests inimical to the Jewish people.
Hellenists were renegades that belonged in the Maccabees era. The Greek, in fact Macedonian Greek Empire. Today the term is only symbolic as Greece is not a factor at all in our struggle. It relates little to the facts on hand.
The term unJew(s) was coined by me and today is used by several principals including Victor, Dan, Aryeh and many other patriots to identify renegades, in many cases outright traitors who identify not with Greece but with Arab Muslims, Mr. Obama, the UN, the EU and so on.
Former Jews that are Musloids?, Obamatists?, EUropeans as Burg and Ben Ami, etc. Burg proposes to us to adopt German citizenship and I believe that Ben Ami is in Spain on the same cradle.
I hope my explanation is agreeable to you and if now I will codify the word in the Blog.
How about calling them “Hellenists”? I think that communicates a much bigger message.
@ ebyjeeby:
The unJews living in Eretz Israel are affected or infected by the same “liberal” infirmity as the Obama administration, Mayor de Blassio, Sharpton, Jackson etc, is in the US. Neither aggregate, here or there will give up voluntarily.
As days go by the virulence of the plans will be seen more clearly.
Peres and his co criminal peresites, Livni, Lapid, Gal On, Hertzog, Burg, are styled as the US “community organizers”, both with the sole intent to harm Israel and the USA.
Why would you think any of this will ever see the light of day; and if it did, the Democrats will cry foul and all will be denied and ridiculed. If Hillary can say, vis a vis the murder of dedicated American’s in Benghazi, something to the effect, What does it matter now, and still be an official part of the government, then anything is possible. Those that are running the show, will not give up easily.
One can only hope & pray these dox are made public and Obama is tossed into prison.
RE: SHmuelHaLevi 2’s point – I don’t understand how the left gets any votes at all in Israel. I guess Michael Savage is correct – liberalism is a mental disorder. I heard one Jewish writer say (who had been raised in a communist home) that leftist Jews’ actual religion is progressivism.
A religion of peace islamic beast just executed two police officers in New York. Ismayeel something did so.
Hey Livni-Peres,Hertzog, Lapid and the rest of the renegade unJews! Terrific choice of “peace partners”
you selected in Oslo and still keep.
The thousands of “victims of peace” that those and other deviants intentionally caused will demand justice against the “peace industry” gangs. The people must not let them get away with murdering by proxy or not so much by proxy.
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@ Topaz:
The only way he can remain in office after heis term limit is up is if there is an extreme national emergency. Now what do you expect to happen so extreme or catastrophic to keep him in power???
Extending by law presidential term limits with a Republican house and Senate is a non starter.
These thoughts give no pleasure. I worry for my friends and family, for this beautiful planet. God help us all.
@ D. Bene: Agree. Those in government and in the media are privy to information and document; and they are silent. Changes and persons that would destroy freedom and subvert the nation have been ALLOWED to be put into place, Look how quickly and easily Boston was “closed down”. All that is needed is an artificial crisis.
@ yamit82:
Obama is not going to leave office…never intended to do so.
Bear Klein Said:
libelers spreading false propaganda need to see the extent of the damage they cause Jews, they cannot be mollycoddled into thinking it is merely a matter of disagreement of ideas. Whether leftist or black hatters there are existential dangers in spreading libels and they must be held responsible for their murders.
Bear Klein Said:
You confuse perpetrators with idealogues. Politicians creating Oslo and still pushing it are informed perpetrators of Jewish murder. The same is true of gideon levy and amira hass who spread libels and propaganda which result in dead jews. The naturei karta who cavort and dance with Jew killers are also themselves Jew killers disguised as Jews. Belief is one thing but taking action which results in dead Jews is murder. Spreading libels about Jews whether from leftists or Jews is murder because libels always preceded pogroms. Murderers and attempted murderers should be brought to justice… the same with manslaughter and attempted manslaughter. there are various forms of justice…e.g. the BDS churches libeling and stalking the jews are causing the heads of christians to be chopped off by the same honor killers they fund and support… this is ironic or divine justice.
Bear Klein Said:
there is a difference between those with points of view who do not have all the info or are brainwashed by the GOI and those who know whats going on and create the events that kill Jews. Peres and Livni know and create the events that kill jews and still try to push Jews to accept Oslo.
@ yamit82:
The Maccabees era is fascinating not only on their side but also regarding the Kingdoms or Empires involved as well. At the end of the period, the Roman Empire also came into play by invitation of the, pro Roman,(Esau’s seed), Jewish renegades. Remarkable in all the historical research that I have read I found no mention of “palistines”.
Bear Klein Said:
Tearing each other down is a Jewish tradition. You want to spoil our fun???
Davar Torah:
Vayikra (lev) 19:16-18
“…. neither shalt thou stand idly by the blood of thy neighbour
17 Thou shalt not hate thy brother in thy heart; thou shalt surely rebuke thy neighbour, and not bear sin because of him.
18 Thou shalt not take vengeance, nor bear any grudge against the children of thy people, but thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself: I am HaShem.
What does “thou shalt surely rebuke thy neighbour, and not bear sin because of him.” mean to you????
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Articles/Article.aspx/16180#.VJbepv8SU
We need to be united as people to progress to our potential not tear each other down is the point!
@ Bear Klein:
The least I expect from those folk are apologies and self removal from all functions of state. Followed by stern application of Jewish laws against mosrim.
Failing that, no dice. I will not ever forgive those that knowingly caused death and mayhem.
Introducing, importing, arming and feeding enemies is not in the realm of political discourse. They committed ghastly acts and must pay.
After the Oslo principals serve jail terms we can talk. They knowingly sent our people to be made into “victims of peace”.
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2: Pointing out were people are wrong in their points of view (e.g. giving up land like Gaza resulting in three wars) can be more beneficial than personal or class attacks.
Many Israelis who were for the Oslo process are now against it. Pointing why the beliefs are wrong in lieu of calling them viles has a better chance of positive change. May not happen in many cases but certainly happens in some. Acting towards them like they are creatures from the evil planet will be divisive.
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
There is strong circumstantial evidence that the same Hellinists prodded the King Antiochus III to issue the anti Jewish (judaism) edicts which prompted the initial revolt.
No wonder that there ensued a bitter bloody civil war. The civil war is the real story of Chanukah. If the Jewish Zealots had lost there would be no Jews, Judaism, christianity or Islam today. Our world would look very different today and not for the better.
Jews have had several civil wars in our history and we even had the Siccarrim
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8evRFOW3Wus
@ Bear Klein:
Regrettably that, to be true, must work two ways. If certain people attack specifically Jews, Jewish Heritage and rights it is our obligation to identify that person or group as an enemy.
We must not offer the other cheek any longer.
One must utterly reject being their “victims of peace”.
That element must be ejected from the core up.
@ Ted Belman:
And we agree. Hellenists were former Jews that reneged Judaism and embraced Greek culture and paganism. They did remove Jewish services from the Temple and introduced Greek deities instead.
Ergo, Hellenism was a specific term applicable to that era.
Today, the same type of renegade Jews focus on being Goyim adopting to that effect different configurations not akin to Greek culture so I created a universal call card for them. unJews.
Some unJews prefer the German culture, others the Spanish way of life, some rather settle in Norway and Oslo being their home culturally, others attach themselves to the newfangled USA social structures and beliefs. The religion of liberalism some call it.
From the religious stand point the unJews only shed Judaism while cowardly remaining in the nether regions of the uncommitted while in many cases adopting Christian customs including but not limited to Christmas trees for example, others such as Peres become subservient to the Vatican, others such as Beinish entered the world of Wagner’s cultural sphere, As one can see modern renegades direct themselves into not being Jewish while not universally adopting one of the many other social and cultural settings.
I wonder if passing judgment on other Jews as classes of people is very constructive or just divisive! What good does it do but divide and alienate. Both Leftists and Rightists do this in Israel and in the Diaspora.
I wonder what the Torah wise men would say? I wonder what the truly liberal would say who believe in inclusiveness.
http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/2277/jewish/What-You-Obviously-Dont-Know.htm
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
Hellenists at the time were Jews who embraced Greek culture and abandoned Jewish religion and culture. I(t seems to me that who you call unjews have also abandonned the Jewish state and have embraced the western norms or culture.
Topaz Said:
I agree. I do believe that once Obama leaves office much of the truth will come out be accepted due to no choice by the American media and the greatest constitutional crisis since the American civil war will ensue.
Not sure America can withstand what’s coming as the damage to constitutionalism will be so great.
Nobody will be blameless.
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
@ Ted Belman:
One must realize that many immigrants to Israel over the years who did not come voluntarily but were brought to Israel in many cases to escape persecution or worse were never Zionists, never loyal to the State and in many cases worked feverishly against the state. Many over the years left but many assumed primary positions in our national and cultural institutions. They have set the general tone since 1948. Not because they constitute a majority but due to undue influence based on their positions even though a small minority.
German Jewish immigration from 1938 to 1940 are a prime example. They behave more like anti Jewish sectarians than loyal Jews or patriotic Israelis.
@ Ted Belman:
I coined the term to apply to pseudo Jews. Genetically they have been born Jewish but in fact they abandoned the responsibilities that go with that and adopted, are in favor of foreign interests inimical to the Jewish people.
Hellenists were renegades that belonged in the Maccabees era. The Greek, in fact Macedonian Greek Empire. Today the term is only symbolic as Greece is not a factor at all in our struggle. It relates little to the facts on hand.
The term unJew(s) was coined by me and today is used by several principals including Victor, Dan, Aryeh and many other patriots to identify renegades, in many cases outright traitors who identify not with Greece but with Arab Muslims, Mr. Obama, the UN, the EU and so on.
Former Jews that are Musloids?, Obamatists?, EUropeans as Burg and Ben Ami, etc. Burg proposes to us to adopt German citizenship and I believe that Ben Ami is in Spain on the same cradle.
I hope my explanation is agreeable to you and if now I will codify the word in the Blog.
@ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
“unjews” doesn’t do it for me.
How about calling them “Hellenists”? I think that communicates a much bigger message.
@ ebyjeeby:
The unJews living in Eretz Israel are affected or infected by the same “liberal” infirmity as the Obama administration, Mayor de Blassio, Sharpton, Jackson etc, is in the US. Neither aggregate, here or there will give up voluntarily.
As days go by the virulence of the plans will be seen more clearly.
Peres and his co criminal peresites, Livni, Lapid, Gal On, Hertzog, Burg, are styled as the US “community organizers”, both with the sole intent to harm Israel and the USA.
Why would you think any of this will ever see the light of day; and if it did, the Democrats will cry foul and all will be denied and ridiculed. If Hillary can say, vis a vis the murder of dedicated American’s in Benghazi, something to the effect, What does it matter now, and still be an official part of the government, then anything is possible. Those that are running the show, will not give up easily.
One can only hope & pray these dox are made public and Obama is tossed into prison.
RE: SHmuelHaLevi 2’s point – I don’t understand how the left gets any votes at all in Israel. I guess Michael Savage is correct – liberalism is a mental disorder. I heard one Jewish writer say (who had been raised in a communist home) that leftist Jews’ actual religion is progressivism.
A religion of peace islamic beast just executed two police officers in New York. Ismayeel something did so.
Hey Livni-Peres,Hertzog, Lapid and the rest of the renegade unJews! Terrific choice of “peace partners”
you selected in Oslo and still keep.
The thousands of “victims of peace” that those and other deviants intentionally caused will demand justice against the “peace industry” gangs. The people must not let them get away with murdering by proxy or not so much by proxy.