Agreement is a reversal of Berlin’s earlier decision to withhold the discount because of Israel’s settlement construction.
A crisis between Israel and Germany over missile boats required to protect Israel’s offshore gas fields has ended after Berlin agreed to slash €300 million (about $382 million) off the cost, officials on both sides said. They are expected to initial an agreement for the boats within weeks.
The talks between Israel and Germany to purchase three fast missile boats to protect the gas rigs off Israel’s shore began a year ago. Haaretz reported that the deal was worth about €900 million.
Israel asked for a 30 percent reduction on the price, like it had received in previous deals on German submarines. The German discount, tantamount to a grant of hundreds of millions of euros, was part of Chancellor Angela Merkel’s policy to bolster Israel’s security.
In the beginning of May, about two weeks after the talks between Israel and the Palestinians stalled, German’s national security adviser Christoph Heusgen told his Israeli counterpart Yossi Cohen that Israel would not receive the discount and would have to pay their full price.
Heusgen said that following the breakdown in the peace talks with the Palestinians and the harsh criticism in Germany of Israel’s construction in the settlements, the Bundestag would not approve a grant of hundreds of millions of euros to subsidize the boats.
The German decision deepened the crisis that has been developing between the two states over the past five years, due to the tense relations between Merkel and Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
The low-key talks were jumpstarted at the end of June when Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman visited Berlin and met German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier. According to a senior Foreign Ministry official in Jerusalem, Steinmeier told Lieberman “don’t worry, it will be o.k.,” and Lieberman left the meeting optimistic about the possibility of getting the missile boats deal back on track.
The talks continued intensively for three months after the meeting between a small group of senior officials on both sides – Lieberman and Steinmeier, Israeli ambassador to Germany Yaakov Hadas and Germany’s ambassador to Israel Andreas Michaelis, national security advisor Yossi Cohen and his German counterpart Christoph Heusgen, as well as Finance Minister Yair Lapid and his counterpart Wolfgang Schäuble.
Israeli officials who asked to remain anonymous said there were several factors which led to the German decision to give Israel the grant despite the criticism over the failure in the Israeli-Palestinian peace talks and the continued construction in the settlements.
One official said Lieberman deserves most of the credit, for forging close cooperation with Steinmeier, who pushed to advance the deal in Germany. “Lieberman dealt with the issue incessantly,” the official said. “He played a very positive part and managed to enlist many German officials to advance the issue.”
Another official said Finance Minister Yair Lapid’s visit in Berlin for talks with German Finance Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble was extremely helpful in advancing the deal in its last stages.
Lapid also met Heusgen and told him he was trying to restrain Israel’s money transfers to the settlements.
Another official said the Germans understood that the missile boats were a vital security necessity for Israel. Cohen, who held talks with Heusgen and other German officials, told them there was a real threat that Hezbollah would attack the gas rigs.
Moreover, the deal was worth hundreds of millions of euros for the German economy and for shipyards which employ thousands of workers. The initial German refusal to give the discount made Israel examine the possibility of purchasing the boats from South Korea. Eventually, the Germans understood they too have an interest in promoting the deal and in putting the discount back on the table.
What finally swung the deal was Merkel’s personal commitment to Israel’s security, a Foreign Ministry official said. “Though she has a lot of criticism, when it’s come to Israeli security she puts it all aside,” said the official. “This deal will strengthen Israel’s strategic ties with Germany for the next 20 years,” he said.
@ honeybee:
buenas noches mi amor dulces sueños
@ yamit82:
Very true, but this my last post, time for you to rest and recover, Goodnight Sugar.
@ honeybee:
Bring back the spacemen and try again. Next time they might become Vulcans.
yamit82 Said:
honeybee Said:
Not the ones from Minnesota, 😛
yamit82 Said:
Vikings always win.
honeybee Said:
How did it end?
honeybee Said:
Funny. “Like”
yamit82 Said:
Spaceman landing in Norway in 766
yamit82 Said:
Panty hose and Chole
honeybee Said:
You Tube says:
“This video is not available in your country.”
What did I miss?
Giants aren’t worth the price of the bottle and box.
I will buy them necklaces of garlic maybe that will do the trick.
yamit82 Said:
Buy them after shave !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdkkxGasVdQ
@ honeybee:
The Giants Stink!!!!!!
yamit82 Said:
You never fail me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
honeybee Said:
🙂
honeybee Said:
Huh? Skinny effete looking and a Brit????
yamit82 Said:
I never ask another woman’s opinion, always been somewhat aloof, never one of the girls. I can’t stand after shave or cologne on a man. I n handsome man dept. actor Tobias Menzies.
@ honeybee:
I used to sell Liz Claiborn
and Chanel, Chloe and Poison by Dior.
All exact knockoffs we called them our version of _________
Absolutely
no difference in scent, and if anything our product lasted longer. At the Time in Israel most women preferred to pay 10 times more for the original brand. Women and young girls would never choose alone but needed others opinions.
Strange creatures women are. 😉 Dallas just scored 🙁
@ honeybee:
2nd list:
Ed Hardy For Women
Viva La Juicy by Juicy Couture
Armani Code For Women By Giorgio Armani
Fancy Love EDP By Jessica Simpson
Chole Eau De Parfum
Acqua Di Gioia For Women
Contradiction from Ck
Gucci By Gucci EDP spray
Shi from Alfred Sung
Pure Poison from Dior
Depends on the season, right now Liz Taylor’s “Gardenia” and something I bought at the flea market. I n the summer a Rose scent that was a gift and Liz Claiborn.
honeybee Said:
What do you wear that’s not on the list?
yamit82 Said:
Of your list that’s the only one I would wear.
yamit82 Said:
That statement pretty much sums up what you know about women.
yamit82 Said:
Bought 3 DVDs two ” Snatch”, one “The Doors”, a ceramic pot and a painting. I was exhausted after yesterdays indulgence.
@ honeybee:
Did you leave anything for others to buy???
honeybee Said:
Can Can by Paris Hilton
Lovely from Sarah Jessica Parker
Burberry Brit For Women By Burberry
Eternity By Calvin Klein
Euphoria EDP for women from Ck
Sofia For Women By Sofia Vergara
Chanel no 5
Si Giorgio Armani By Giorgio Armani
Obsession from CK
Guess EDP For Women
Women do but buy on scent but what other women tell them is good. They are also brand conscience.
Israel to supply gas to Egyptian company
Tamar gas field is set to transfer up to 2.5 billion cubic meters of natural gas per year for seven years
Israelis as rich as most Europeans – report
Although there is concern about how assets are distributed, people in Israel are doing just fine, Credit Suisse says
yamit82 Said:
And do you know what’s currant ?????????
bernard ross Said:
They don’t male Arpege, Heaven Spent or Gardenia any more, go to the Dept and study the perfume counter.
yamit82 Said:
Go COWBOYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ Economist:
Gas goes to Egypt contracts singed last week,
Spain has the LNG plants in Egypt and the ships
The same pipeline Israel used to import from Egypt will now be used in reverse. Contract for over 15 years est, 65 billion dollars.
I thought you were smart.
GO GIANTS!!!!!!!!!
Very interesting. The Germans had also to consider how much, if any, gas they might get from Israel, the costs of new LNG ships and port infrastructure or a pipeline, and cheap Russian gas with it’s security downside. On balance I doubt economic factors played much of a part in the final reversal.
yamit82 Said:
“I can’t believe I’m saying this, but that’s a good idea” 😛
bernard ross Said:
The Beach
yamit82 Said:
True, True but since the commercial decades ago I have not seen an as useful, amusing and recognizable “analogy”, so from time to time I still use it and some old folks like me tend to remember it. Got a current one that does the same?
bernard ross Said:
I agree with your general analysis but change “Arpege”?? to something a bit more current.
there is also the incentive of receiving energy from the fields to be protected. I am wondering if the great rhetoric of the euro politicians is a drama to soothe their streets: “promise them anything but give them Arpege”. Sometimes the louder the rhetoric the greater the distraction.