US president markedly unfriendly, interrupted prime minister as he attempted to push unfavorable truce on Israel.
By Ari Soffer, INN
First Publish: 7/29/2014, 9:56 PM / Last Update: 7/29/2014, 10:50 PM
Damning evidence has emerged of US President Barack Obama’s dismissal of Israel’s position in favor of supporting the position of Hamas and its allies during ceasefire talks.
A “senior US official” leaked an audio recording of a telephone conversation between Obama and Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu toChannel One. In it the 35-minute conversation, which took place on Sunday, the US President appears downright hostile at points, and even cuts off Netanyahu in the middle of his protestations over a one-sided truce proposal which would have seen Hamas receive all its key demands, but that Israel ultimately rejected.
The following is an excerpt of the conversation, published in Hebrew byChannel One:
Obama: I demand that Israel agrees to an immediate, unilateral ceasefire and halt all offensive activities – particularly airstrikes.
Netanyahu: What will Israel receive in return for a ceasefire?
Obama: I believe that Hamas will stop firing rockets – silence will be met with silence.
Netanyahu: Hamas violated all five previous ceasefires, it is a terrorist organization which is dedicated to the destruction of Israel.
Obama: I repeat and expect Israel to unilaterally stop all its militaryactivity. The pictures of destruction from Gaza distance the world from Israel’s position.
Netanyahu: Kerry’s proposal was completely unrealistic and gives Hamas the military and diplomatic advantage.
Obama: Within a week of the end of Israel’s military activities, Qatar and Turkey will begin negotiations with Hamas on the basis of the 2012 understanding [following the end of Operation Pillar of Defense – ed.], including Israel’s commitment to removing the siege and restrictions on Gaza,
Netanyahu: Qatar and Turkey are the biggest supporters of Hamas. It is impossible to rely on them to be fair mediators.
Obama: I trust Qatar and Turkey, and Israel is in no position to choose its mediators.
Netanyahu: I object, because Hamas is able to continue and to fire rockets and to use tunnels for terror attacks…
Obama – interrupts Netanyahu mid-sentence: The ball is in Israel’s court – it is obligated to end all military activities.
The Channel One journalist who received the tape emphasized that at other points during the conversation there were more “positive” word exchanged between the two, such as Obama repeating America’s commitment to Israel’s security.
But those words will ring hollow to Israelis, considering that the proposal put together by John Kerry, Qatar and Turkey did not address a singleone of Israel’s demands and – as alluded to by Obama himself – relied on little more than the goodwill of Hamas to stop firing rockets. This, despite the group (which the US itself lists as a terrorist organization) being unabashedly committed to the destruction of the State of Israel and the genocide of all Israeli Jews.
For his part, earlier on Tuesday John Kerry claimed that Prime Minister Netanyahu had in fact approached him to ask him to help hammer out a ceasefire deal, after previous truce proposals were rejected by Hamas.
If that was indeed the case what resulted could hardly have been what Netanyahu had in mind: a joint initiative with two states overtly hostile towards Israel, concluding in a draft proposal which would have granted Hamas all of its key conditions – including the opening of air and sea ports and the total lifting on Israel’s security blockade – but which addressed Israel’s “security concerns” in only the vaguest possible terms.
Update: US and Israeli officials have rushed to dismiss the recording as a”fabrication”.
M Devolin Said:
Don’t spoil my fun, Maple Sugar. I like toying with Max.
Don’t pay any mind to this Max, honeybee. He’s a troll. He’s been here before.
Max Said:
And you have………. Shurnuff Sweeetie Pie !!!!!!!!!! Youses the man ???????????
honeybee Said:
More than you apparently as you are living in fantasies and have never seen real life.
honeybee Said:
What an incredible and arrogant fantasy you have. We are here because of evolution and if we fail and exterminate ourselves another more deserving species will take our place – probably descended form the canines next tiem – they are more deserving.
Max Said:
And Bless your Li’tle o’ heart, I bet you know a lot about lows.
Max Said:
Excuse me if I am mistaken, but “Bless your dear heart sugar”, I thought the Almighty gave mankind dominion of the earth.
bernard ross Said:
They are very old “lows”. They even have lower “lows”.
MSM sinking to new lows. Their false stories perhaps cause Jewish murders by muslim mobs in France, incensed by the lies they read. These “journalists” are murderers in addition to being despicable. Journalists today appear to be at the bottom of the barrel and completely without crfedibility, especially the MSM
honeybee Said:
Oh really? Are you not the unnatural illegal occupier of their land? Did you not destroy the ecology with the rich man’s ranches?
None of this is G_d’s work.
When will you end the illegal blockade of the animal kingdom??!!!
The deer an the antelope no longer play – mankind has ruined their fun.
Muslims are G_d’s way of restoring the natural balance and getting rid of obscene humanity so the animal kingdom can once again enjoy the earth.
So it would seem.
I wonder how many expensive missiles Israel has left to fire at the rockets from gaza? I wold not depend on replacements from Hussein.
So it proves that what everybody knows is true is what is true.
Obama is the best ally of anti-Israeli Jihadis.
Kerry is his angel of death – to bring destruction to Israel.
the phoenix Said:
And lots of chocolate !!!!!!!!!!
@ honeybee:
…sigh….
the phoenix Said:
I object to that say they’ll only come over the border and plague me. I am watching a doe grazing. She is on the hill that rises from my patio.
She probably has a fawn hidden some where in the house yard. She has been here all day. I provide grass, and cover but still a cougar occasionally descends from the mesa and kills one.
She just laid down now to chew her cud. Looks young, probably a yearling on her own for the first time.
You learn a lot watching the deer and cows. You learn to live in the moment and let the Almighty handle the future, I recommend it.
@ honeybee:
Oh God bless you hb, you are an instant relief…
I admit that this ‘myth’ is quite accurate , except when I see or hear about the black bastard AND our very own curious american who strangely is not around these days…
(Robin with the long horn cows advised on another thread to move them to South America…
I asked him if we should pay for that… 🙂 )
the phoenix Said:
There goes another myth, the myth of the calm cool Canadian.
I suspect that much of obama kerry behavior has to do with appearing to make achievements by the midterm election in order to affect the composition of congress to push through his agenda in the US. The foreign policy is geared to result in domestic gains. Hence everything is timed and everything is to a schedule, the 9 mos of peace talks etc. Obama wants to go home with “diplomatic achievements with Iran, Syria,a pal unity gov., even Ukraine. To that end he needs the cooperation of all the players to achieve his goals. This is why hamas is an important player now and why Abbas was an important player for the faux peace talks. In both cases the weak ones were the fly in the ointment to whom Israel had to make concessions to get Obama what he wanted for his diploshow within the necessary time frame. Hamas knows that its acceptance of a cease fire is what the west and especially obama want in order to have a unity gov . For obama appearances are more important than realities. e.g. as long as it appears that gaza will demilitarize after the cease-fire then he gets his credit whether or not gaza actually demilitarizes. Obama wants BB to accept anything so he can move ahead with his election BS story.
As usual, Israel is the piece of shit to be kicked around by obama to get what he wants to take home. All Obama “achievements” will be diplomatic because those are much easier to fake.
yamit82 Said:
this article appears to confirm everything I have been saying for the last 2 years regarding Israel and the GCC. If correct, then BB’s behavior in gaza would be subject to his understandings with the GCC. They have given him unprecedented support but I expect that support has conditions both in terms of outcomes and the way the war is promulgated.
One should try and analyze BB’s options in relation to this relationship. I think this relationship also governed the faux peace talks and Israels posture in the Syria situation. At the end of the day BB seeks the, already close, overall normalization with the arab states. It has become a realistic goal already within reach. I believe the GCC sees the pal status as secondary to their regional interests and no longer want that conflict to affect their goals.
This is not to say that the envisioned regional plans will be successful: there is many a slip between cup and lip. (ask obama)
yamit82 Said:
True, but I would not trust it to be applied to Jews and Israel in any manner other than a kangaroo court if conducted by the UN or ICC. International law appears to be denied to the Jews or Iarael. The UN has demonstrated that there is no credibility in its consensus mob rule to feed the Jews to terror.
I swear to God, I am going to have a heart attack….
Who da fuck does this fucking black peace of shit think he is?????
God damn it, Israel PLEASE remove this empty suit that happens to speak Hebrew….. (Big deal. So does zoabi!)
These kind of slaps can NOT go unanswered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
They must NOT be unanswered.
Is it too much, God to ask why doesn’t the Kenyan simian go for a drive in a convertible around a grassy knoll, or go watch a play at ford theater?!!
AAAARRRRGGGGHHHH!
Saudi Arabia behind effort to disarm the Palestinian Resistance
By: Fouad al-Ibrahim
Friday, July 25, 2014
Internat’l Law Precludes Ceasefires with Terror Groups
International law has precise form and content. It cannot be invented and reinvented by terror groups such as Hamas or by aspiring states.
Op-Ed: Israel, Stop Placating the World’s Opinion
For the world, no matter what Israel does, it is in the wrong.
Giulio Meotti
The world doesn’t care if an Israeli tank holds its fire when facing a Hamas terrorist surrounded by children.
The world doesn’t care if Israeli pilots are justified in hitting a UN school.
The world doesn’t care if a Golani unit finds weapons in a Palestinian kindergarten.
For the world, Israel is the scapegoat. Jews are always unjust.
Israel can stop placating the world’s opinion: it costs human lives. Jewish lives.
A few days ago, I wrote a long article for my newspaper in Italy explaining Hamas’ human shields: hospitals, schools, mosques, cemeteries, United Nations’ sites. The readers’ first comment was: “Damned Jews, cancer of the world”.
You cannot placate this madness. It is like a virus. But Israel can stop placating the world’s opinion: it costs human lives. Jewish lives.
The entire world is now dispensing sage advice and is urging Israel to end the “cycle of violence” between the warring parties, as if there was a moral equivalence between beheaders and human beings, between mothers who send their own children to a certain death and mothers who shelter their children in safe rooms.
Who has the right to preach morality and proper conduct to the people of Israel?
Who has earned the political right to sit in judgment upon the Jews and school them in what is right and what is wrong?
Is it the United Nations, an entity which has found its unity only in an embarassing attack upon the Jewish State’s right to exist and to defend itself?
Is it the Europeans who are now living in the houses once owned by Jews?
Should Israel accept moral criticism from France, which capitulated to the Nazis in World War II and hurried to deport its own Jews from Drancy?
Israel is subjected to the sermons of the “moderate” Arab leaders. Even the most “moderate” among them have skeletons in their closets.
Israel and the Jews must stop bowing at the world’s feet. The State of Israel and the Jewish people exist today not only despite the world’s opinion. But even against it.
What person or nation has the credentials to preach morality to Israel? Nobody.
I’m thinking that Biden might be a welcome relief
I believe the tapes are true.
That explains why a Hamas does not accept a cease fire because his ally Hussein has told him that he will pressure Israel for hamas. Obama now is allied to a US designated terror org, he appears to be breaking all US laws he is meant to uphold.
also, the PMO release, using the exact wording, is the signal that the tape is true. Obama is destroying all the US relationships and allying with terror orgs and terror sponsors.