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no to nuclear Iran, no to two-state solution, no to bi-national state
OBAMA’S ‘BIG BREAKTHROUGH’ COMING BY END OF YEAR. Leaked: Official declaration of Palestinian state – See more at: http://kleinonline.wnd.com/2014/02/18/obamas-big-breakthrough-coming-by-end-of-year-leaked-official-declaration-of-palestinian-state/#sthash.ESupovTn.dpuf
@ yamit82:
Actually, he’s right in saying that the issue of recognition (as a Jewish state) “doesn’t endanger the State.”
But that’s NOT where its concrete VALUE lies anyway.
The value of the recognition issue is that as long as GOI continues to demand it, & it remains pending — it keeps the ‘peace’ process in the crapper
— since Abbas says recognition is “out of the question.”
@ Dan Willens:
Two BLATANT betrayals, and still trying to go about it in a ‘civilized way’?….
I have commented on another thread how after 22 years of tyranny, the Romanians have overthrown their dictator.
I may not have thoroughly thought this out, but I fail to see what am I missing….
The majority of the country is AGAINST disengagement and yet, dictator #1 proceeds to do just that, at full speed …
Dictator #2 is ready for a repeat performance….
It is 5 minutes to midnight…. And …everything is business as usual?????
“Yeah, they just agreed to give away Judea Samaria and Jerusalem….. Could you please pass the milk? (the latte is a little too strong….)”
As if we should have to petition the PM of Israel not to give away Israel – in the first place!
An Alternative to any Petition to PM Netanyahu
By Prof. Paul Eidelberg
I cannot say I am encouraged by a petition addressed to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that calls on the public to say No to a Palestinian state.
This is a rather curious display of Israeli Democracy in view of the fact that, on June 14, 2009, PM Netanyahu endorsed the creation of a Palestinian state without Knesset or public debate.
In fact, as have elsewhere shown, the public, by means of national elections and opinion polls, has clearly conveyed overwhelming opposition to a Palestinian state since the June 1992 elections when the late Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin opposed any negotiations with the Palestinian Liberation Organization, the PLO.
More recently, in the February 2003 elections, no less than 70 percent of the electorate voted against Labor’s policy of unilateral disengagement from Gaza.
However, just as Labor leader Rabin betrayed the nation by signing the Oslo or Israel-PLO Agreement of September 13, 1993, so Likud leader Ariel Sharon betrayed the nation when he nullified that 2003 election by adopting Labor’s anti-Jewish appeasement policy.
“Anti-Jewish” is precisely the term Ariel Sharon used in his Jerusalem Post article of March 31, 1995. In that article he said, among other recriminating statements: “This government is against everything that is Jewish….Anyone planning to hand over Beit El and Shiloh is against Jews and Judaism.”
Therefore, instead of addressing a petition to PM Netanyahu who betrayed the nation by endorsing a Palestinian state, it would be more sensible – even if futile – to distribute a million copies of Sharon’s Jerusalem Post article on the one hand, and call for Netanyahu’s resignation on the other.?
lzaidel Said:
Good point!!!
The so called peace process resulted in wars and not peace. Despite strong efforts by Israel to have a peaceful relations with Palestinian Arabs, they (Arabs) donot want to have an agreement by making some reasonable compromises unless their ultimate demands are met. Under such circumstances what should Israel do? Its leaders should not announce to the world saying: we donot need a Palestinian state in order to neutralize some countries who want to harm its vital interests. What it could do is this: use its supporters through out the world about the impossibility of having a Palestinian state
based on historical, religious and other factors, such as, the extreme hatred of the Arabs against the Jews – despite the generous offers made to them at irregular intervals. As the Arabs are rewriting history, it is they who lack historical claims to the Holy Land. Instead of looking for recognition from the Arabs (which they donot want to do because of their religion and other factors), how about if the current Israeli leadership says the land we are now on belongs to our ancestors and by extension to us and from now on there is no need to ask Palestinian Arabs recognition of us. It is possible to even withdraw the recognition of any future Palestinian state since they have refused to reciprocate in kind.
I believe to accept Palestinian state, who not accepting existence of Israel state, will be sick. People who bring this up do not respect others and themselves.
@ yamit82:
Agreed! And that explains Fatah’s and by extension, the PA’s presenting a series of demands to Israel designed to ensure a peace agreement will never happen. Above all, it wants to show Hamas who is the more militantly anti-Israel faction in intra-Palestinian Arab politics.
@ yamit82:
In any case, the elite went ahead and did what it wanted anyway. Israel is not a country governed by a system of checks and balances. Only the Soviet government had more absolute power than the one possessed by Israel and that is not meant as a compliment.
@ yamit82:
This is the PLO’s Phased Plan of the destruction of Israel by stages. No Israeli government can agree to it – given that the PLO says its not subject to negotiation! So given this development, what is there for Israel to negotiate about?
NormanF Said:
Not the same thing. One related to inter-party politics the other a National basic law… hard to ignore results unless you change the action so it does not oppose the referendum results. You can conceivably do that by a change in the language of the agreement.
Hamas bolstering its long-range missile arsenal
IDF officials: Hamas has shifted focus from smuggling in weapons through tunnels to producing weapons locally • IDF believes likelihood of a third intifada breaking out is low • Palestinian official says Kerry’s framework proposal may be doomed to fail.
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I disagree with the reported IDF assessment re: renewed intifada. It’s in the cards and likely when the talks fail. The IDF report has political overtones and Hamas would win any new election in Y&S that’s why Abbas has not held elections for the past 5 years. There is a fight going on on who will replace Abbas and a return to terror will determine who will replace him.
Abbas’s new red line: Israeli withdrawal within 4 years
‘Palestinians will not sign a deal without explicit recognition of East Jerusalem as their capital, full prisoner release’
Preempting the American framework agreement for a Palestinian-Israeli peace deal expected within weeks, the Palestinian presidency on Wednesday issued a list of “red lines” stating PA President Mahmoud Abbas’s nonnegotiable positions.
Nabil Abu Rudeineh, a spokesman for Abbas, told the official PA daily Al-Ayyam that the American paper must include an Israeli withdrawal “from all Palestinian territories occupied in 1967? within a time frame of three to four years, followed by the release of all Palestinian prisoners in Israeli jails. The agreement must also explicitly refer to East Jerusalem as the capital of the Palestinian state.
Abbas’s list of “red lines,” sent to the Middle East Quartet ahead of its meeting in Germany in early February as well as to US President Barack Obama, also includes a call to solve the refugee issue based on UN General Assembly Resolution 194, and a refusal to recognize Israel as a Jewish state.
“These are the red lines of the Palestinian position, since without these principles there can be no just and comprehensive peace in the region,” Abu Rudeineh said.
yamit82 Said:
yamit82 Said:
The good news is no one likes it. Tom Wilson has already written the Kerry plan is probably already moot anyway.
yamit82 Said:
Given the latest Arab position, I don’t see either a referendum or a Mitsubishi for a Knesset vote on a putative peace deal in sight in the forseeable future. Of course Meretz is against allowing a popular vote on it and if there ever was one held, if the Israeli elite felt a deal was still in their interests, they could ignore any referendum result to the contrary with impunity and go ahead with it. Just like the late Ariel Sharon ignored the Likud rank and file’s vote against the Disengagement from Gaza.
Danon Slams PM’s ‘Sharon-Style Fear Campaign’
Danon accuses PM of anti-democratic ‘threats, fear campaign’ to prevent criticism of Kerry plan.
yamit82 Said:
Money knows no conscience or national loyalties. Ideology is a marginal consideration when there are lucrative deals on offer.
Referendum Law Approved for Second and Third Readings
Law which would require Knesset majority approval to give away land is a step closer to becoming a Basic Law.
yamit82 Said:
Meir Dagan seems to think that if Israel dropped its core demand the Arabs acknowledge the existence of the Jewish nation, a major roadblock to peace would be cleared away! What he doesn’t seem to understand is that this is now not enough for the Palestinian Arabs, whose latest demands constitute an ultimatum to Israel to consent to the terms of its own destruction. Nonsense, indeed. It makes you wonder how leftists like Dagan were in charge of Israel’s security establishment for so many decades.
@ NormanF:
Israel wants to sell gas to Turkey so it’s viewed as a necessary bribe easily recouped if the deal goes through.
Has nothing to do with annexation. Except annexation will kill some of the sweet deals being negotiated in energy and military sales so on balance money talks for now.
Dagan: Demand for Recognition is ‘Nonsense’
Former Mossad chief dismisses Prime Minister Netanyahu’s demand that the PA recognize Israel as a Jewish state.
@ yamit82:
I’m not exactly surprised! Israel can offer a $23 million bribe to the Turks to “normalize” relations but its too craven to assert Israeli sovereignty over Judea and Samaria. Its all about priorities.
Ministers Reject Regev’s Annexation Bill
I just signed the petition.
A Palestinian Arab state is an RX for Jewish national suicide!
We all need to do our part to avert it.