With Geneva, Military Force Only Remaining Option to Stop Iranian Nukes By Mort Klien and Daniel Mandel
From Hy Drusin,
Dear Friends,
Here are my questions & his answers:
Q) Mort, I heard a quote attributed to you that “it’s too late for sanctions on Iran.”A) Yes, Seth Lipsky quoted me accurately. Iran will get the bomb in 2 months. If strong sanctions were to imposed tomorrow, they’ll get it in 3.
Q) If they get it, will they, as they said they would, use it to kill 6 million Jews, even if they have to sacrifice 70 million Iranians, since “one billion Moslems will still survive”? Or are they bluffing?
A) They are absolutely NOT bluffing. They deeply believe that their 12th “hidden imam”, the Mahdi (their messiah) will appear after an Armageddon. They have built monuments to him and even wide roads especially for him to travel on. They preach about his coming all the time on their media, and completely believe it will happen — and that they must trigger it.
Q) Since it’s too late for sanctions, that means that only military force can prevent such an occurrence — which the U.S. won’t use. Will Israel use force?
A) I spoke to Bibi, and several of his cabinet members, last year, privately. He promised me that Israel would hit Iran in 2012. However, Obama and his people severely pressured and scared him, and Bibi didn’t act.
Q) Won’t it be harder for Israel to attack now?
A) It will be immensely harder, since the whole world will condemn Israel for destroying the “peace process”.
Mort said that the only issue he’s focusing on now is Iran, and he asked me to speak to my rabbi and ask him if Mort can address the congregation.
If you ask YOUR rabbi if Mort can speak, and he says yes, email me and I will give you Mort’s cell number.
I read not so long ago that “Iran” actually means “Aryan nation.” It was changed from the original “Persia” during the 2nd World War.
@ Shy Guy:
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honeybee Said:
Obligatory
Shy Guy Said:
Help is on the way, TX is the neighborhood “snake-getter” and I am his assistent: http://youtu.be/Toxd3YRTris
honeybee Said:
Aw! You shouldn’t a sed dat.
mar55 Said:
Don’t disparage snakes, they are very usefull animals, kill lots of rodents.
@ mar55:
@ yamit82:
@ bernard ross:
Edgar Broffman died, my Father disliked him intensily. What is yawls oppion of Broffman? Yanit82 check in with your sister,Dallas had another ice storm!!!!
mar55 Said:
Yamit82 is the intellectual bloodhound of the pundit!
mar55 Said:
A lot Luck and persistence but also knowing the right questions to ask can get you the information. 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UocAT2EqEBQ. Listen very carefully, worth your time.
@ yamit82:
John Loftus: Top Secret Intelligence, Nazi, WWII, CIA, Israel, Middle East
@ mar55:
@ bernard ross:
John J. Loftus
@ mar55:
@ bernard ross:
John J. Loftus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cWa-isfeYE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UocAT2EqEBQ
@ bernard ross:
@ mar55:
Aarons, Mark and Loftus, John. Unholy Trinity: How the Vatican’s Nazi Networks Betrayed Western Intelligence to the Soviets. New York: St.Martin’s Press, 1992. 372 pages.
Why did Churchill and FDR give the USSR all of E Europe? They didn’t have to and that’s probably why they had Patten Murdered. He wanted to immediatly attack the USSR before demobilization when America had the strength to wipe them out especially with our Nukes.
@ mar55:
It’s Here https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?3038-Vatican-Bank#.UrY1c_v4yot
@ bernard ross:
Vatican Bank
@ bernard ross:
Vatican Bank
Several books, such as Unholy Trinity: How the Vatican’s Nazi Networks Betrayed Western Intelligence to the Soviets, Genocide in Satellite Croatia 1941?1945 and The Vatican’s Holocaust, which appeared during the 1980s and 1990s were highly critical of the Vatican Bank’s historical relations with right-wing governments and especially with the collaborationist regime of the Independent State of Croatia during World War II.[10] [11] [12] Sources such as these engendered initial defensive hostility and controversy, which centers on conclusions drawn from the documentation rather than the documents themselves.
According to a 1998 report issued by the US State Department, the Nazi Croatian treasury was illicitly transferred to the Vatican Bank and other banks after the end of World War II[10]. For its part, the Vatican has repeatedly denied any Franciscan participation in Ustashi crimes or the disappearance of the Croatian Treasury, yet has refused to open its wartime records to substantiate its denial.
On October 21, 1946, a Top Secret report from US Treasury Agent Emerson Bigelow (called “The Bigelow Report”), which was declassified in 1997, quoted a “reliable source in Italy” (who corroborated evidence already obtained by CIC intelligence officials of the Army)[13], who alerted his superior that Croatian officials had sent 350 million confiscated Swiss francs (CHF) to the Vatican Bank “for safekeeping”, a sum largely in the form of gold coins[13]. On the way some CHF150 million were allegedly seized by British authorities at the border between Austria and Switzerland, which brought the secret transfer into the open. “There is no basis in reality to the report”, said Vatican spokesman Joaquin Navarro-Valls, as reported in Time magazine.[14]
The Vatican Bank has been often accused of funding the Solidarity Polish trade-union as well as the Contras, managing US covert funds.[15]
Attempted legal action Read More
bernard ross Said:
@ yamit82:
you started me on this;
Follow this thread: The Nazi-Vatican Nexus.
Klaus Barbie escape (nicknamed, Butcher of Lyons) He escaped to South America with his family under the alias of Klaus Altmann, helped by American intelligence for whom he had worked after the war, armed with a pass from the Red Cross, and supplied with money and ticket by a Roman Catholic priest under the auspices of the Vatican.
Nazi Escape System
Nazi escape Leading Nazi’s escaped from Germany at the end of the war using SS funds and helped by a variety of agencies including Allied intelligence organizations, international business and the Catholic Church (Eichmann used this route).
British Embassy report “The men behind the scenes in Argentina expect to be left to keep the flame of Nazism alight after it is extinguished in Europe. In this they are solidly backed by the Church of Rome,” 1944.
Vatican Nazi escape Nazi criminals and collaborators from all over Europe, survivors of Catholicism’s flirtation with the far right in the 1930s, were privileged recipients of prelates of the Catholic church in Argentina, Spain, France, Belgium, and the Vatican itself, and provided with transport to Argentina. US State Department labeled the Vatican “the largest single organization involved in the illegal movement of emigrants [Nazis],” report 19 June 1947.
Perón Nazi War Criminals General Perón opened up a passage for ex-Nazis at end of WW II, outdoing all other countries in his eagerness to entice new immigrants from Europe with technical qualifications. Perón did not relish the outcome of the war, was opposed to the Nuremberg trials, and enjoyed support of the powerful German-Argentine community, ensuring that many of Europe’s ex-Nazis, from Belgium and Croatia as well as Germany, received a safe passage to Argentina. At the same time Argentine anti-Semitism led to a campaign to prevent Jewish immigration.
Perón clandestine network Secret network of the Perón government that embraced the Foreign Relations Ministry, the Ministry of Immigration and the intelligence service to provide a safe haven to Nazis, run directly from the presidential palace by Rodolfo Freude.
Rodolfo Freude German-Argentinian, one of Perón’s closest advisors who ran his propaganda apparatus and served as director on the newly founded state intelligence service.
Catholic connection Roman Catholic church was deeply involved in the network, the first Nazis arriving as the result of a meeting between Antonio Caggiano, an Argentine cardinal, and Eugene Tisserant, a French cardinal attached to the Vatican 1946. The church was the guarantor to the Red Cross for the Nazis to get permission to emigrate to Argentina, and many of the applications were signed by priests or by the Pontifical Commission of Assistance, the pope’s own entity for refugees.
@ yamit82:
you started me on this; what I find most interesting is that the nazi culture of the CIA is probably still operative and working against the jews with the Muslims like hitler and husseini. Nazism was an outgrowth of the eugenics movement financed by the 1%(ford, carnegie, harriman)and the descendants of those 1% are probably still running the US and elsewhere with the same goals. The 1% were the ones out to kill the Jews which helps explain the insane ongoing media and gov campaigns globally, they own it.
re the cold war
@ yamit82:
the CIA Klaus Barbie coverup apparently released minimal information to cover up the fact that the CIA was a nazi org. still operating Barbie and other bigwigs, or being operated by them. The CIA handler for Barbie said he was treated by Barbie as his chauffeur due to high up connections. Notice Reagan 🙂
@ yamit82:
Terrible weather today and Loki is acting up. You want consperasies, I was reading the history of the “War of the Roses”. Nothing people in powder due to retain power,surprized me. I am completely jaded.
@ yamit82:
Gil white’s stuff is excellent, also I neverknew how big the nazi CIA connection was and that the CIA was acurally a nazi org and still exists as a nazi org. this explains much of what is happening. this is bigger than i thought, a must read. Consider that the real gov in the USA is the CIA
CIA as a nazi creation
http://emperors-clothes.com/coverup/summary.htm
@ bernard ross:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ_t5JhzBTo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgRlRwZ6xrE
2 conspiracy propagators discussing history. Lots of BS but some interesting facts…
Vatican brought in to America after WW2 over 100,000 Nazis with American help… The church ran the rat line and the vatican Bank is the worlds largest money laundering instrument in the world then and probably still today.
@ bernard ross:
The Real Netanyahu Is he defending Israel?
Historical and Investigative Research – 18 July, 2010
by Francisco Gil-White
speaking to the Conference of Presidents of American Jewish Organizations, the Israeli prime minister Benjamin Netanyahu made an interesting statement.
Malcolm Hoenlein, the executive vice-president, asked him about the “direct talks” and about “the final-status issues and especially about Jerusalem.” Netanyahu replied:
“Netanyahu asserts that “the last thing we need to do is pile on… preconditions” to the talks between Israeli and Palestinian leaders. That is, we must not insist too much on the precondition of an undivided Jerusalem as capital of the Jewish State.” Read More
@ bernard ross:
@ honeybee:
THE NAZIS AND THE PALESTINIAN MOVEMENT
Documentary and discussion
Historical and Investigative Research – 26 July 2013
by Francisco Gil-White
The short documentary below explains PLO/Fatah’s history.
This documentary is now on Vimeo, but it was first uploaded to You Tube. In the first two days, almost with no publicity, the You Tube webpage quickly logged more than 1,500 visits. Then, on the third day, Israelis began reporting that You Tube was not allowing them to access the video. You Tube’s explanation is that when a video is blocked in this manner it can be due to only one of two reasons:
1) the You Tube account-owner placed country restrictions on the video; or else
2) You Tube is complying with local laws
We did not place country restrictions on the video. That leaves us with the second possibility.
Read More with videos blocked by You Tube.
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I wonder what threats were made by this gerbiling president, this muslim agent, this existential jewish enemy?
yamit82 Said:
She called this similar to “Nixon’s China moment” for Obama. It’s too bad the Jews don’t notice “the jews did it” attack that the obama admin has been making all along.
@ yamit82:
She is a shill for Obama, plain and simple.
Rachel Maddow: (Those dirty Jews are trying to force America into another war for their benefit…)Joseph Wouk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZVHQqnp8ijM
Bipartisan Menendez Iran Sanctions Bill: ” Maddow purposefully distorts the intent and the effect of the bill in the Senate.
The bill strengthens Obama’s negotiating position by making clear to Teheran the cost of violating the terms of the agreement. It has NO impact if there are no violations.
Maddow says outright that it is an attempt to force the US into another war.
Huh?
Oh, right… WH Talking point.
For good measure she stresses that he bill is the result of “outside groups” like (surprise !) AIPAC.
(Those dirty Jews are trying to force America into another war for their benefit…)
Say it ain’t so, Rachel…. Say it ain’t so.”
Sanctions will not stop the Iran nuke program. It does make them weaker however as it takes money to keep buying weapons and keep the Iranian people from eventually over throwing the Mullah regime.
If Israel has the capability to stop or seriously slow down the nuke program of Iran it should because this weak an stupid Obama never will.