Land withdrawal referendum passes Cabinet

This referendum bill is totally unacceptable for two reasons
1. It doesn’t require a super majority to pass and
2. It doesn’t apply to give aways of Judea and Samaria.
Since no one expects there will be a deal this time around to give up Jerusalem or the Golan, the referendum will not be needed. But if there is to be an interim deal, it will include give aways of Parts of Judea and Samaria. The public should also have the right to vote on such giveaways. Ted Belman

By Jason Maoz, JEWISH PRESS

The Israeli Cabinet approved a measure that would require a public referendum or vote on any peace agreement that involves withdrawing from land Israel captured in the 1967 Six Day War.

The legislation was to be brought to a vote of the full Knesset by midweek for a first reading.

“It is important that every citizen have a direct vote on what will determine the future of the state,” Benjamin Netanyahu told the Cabinet before the vote.

But, the legislation only refers to land under Israel’s sovereign control, meaning a referendum will not have to be held in order to give away areas of the West Bank to the Palestinians. Any peace deal that requires giving away parts of Jerusalem or the Golan Heights, or land swaps, will have to be put to a popular vote.

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  4. @ yamit82:

    @ Shy Guy:

    Last evening I watched a program on the Military Channel about the 1973 war between Israel, Egypt and Syria. I had not realized how close Israel had come to destruction. How, after that desparate fight,Israeli politicians, can even begin to entertain “returning” the disputed land, goes beyound all logic.
    Is peace that valuable,and to whom is it valuable?

  7. @ SHmuel HaLevi 2:
    Dear shmuel,

    I share your sentiments 100%

    http://youtu.be/khXgPOLefGc

    Could you please comment and enlighten us, who are not in Israel, as to:

    How and why is the Israeli ‘amkha’ continuing to put up with having the wool pulled over their eyes?
    We can debate and post comments on israpundit to the yazzoo, but the facts on the ground THERE, is what really matters.
    This is a frog that is slowly being boiled to death (and as of late, not so slowly either!) The intentions are being shouted from rooftops via the criminal press with the proper spin.
    As you have said, shimon, the peresite, has discussed his vision of populating the Negev…
    There comes a moment in time when I stop to think and wonder, am I (and most of the israpundit commentators) the ONLY ONES to see it? Is it not apparent as well OVER THERE?
    Has Israel become the ultimate police state?
    I don’t know….

  8. “passes cabinet”… Wow! If Netanyahu, the coward as defined by my betters, would bring before the repugnant specimens in the “cabinet” a proposal to perform the planned “disengagement stage II”, it will also “pass cabinet” as will any proposal to transfer by force 100000 Jews from Yehudah and Shomron to camps in the Negev, (Peres hinted at that for the record).
    As to the release of the first batch of bestial islamic murderers. The same “cabinet” approved that, twice.
    Since the treasonous PM and his unJews already “passed cabinet” the release of murderers of Jews I have a question for y’all.
    Whats the next step open for the “cabinet”? Let your logical minds run free and tell me.

  11. There should be a super-majority to blunt or compensate for the 22% Arab vote who will automatically vote in favor of the Palis and anti Israel position. I would bar the Arabs from any vote that influences or is determinative of the Jewish and Zionist character of the State. Baring that;- a super-majority is the only democratic way of balancing their vote on such matters.

    Would America allow the Japanese Americans to vote for or against a declaration of war against Japan? Nope: America did one better they took thousands of loyal Americans and put them in concentration camps. Many German loyal Americans as well. Our Arabs are not collectively and for the most part individually loyal to the State of Israel and even if they were they still support their brother and sister diaper heads on the other side of our demarcation lines.

    With a simple majority rule the Jews must turn out in numbers sufficient to overcome the built in Arab Israeli vote. If Obama got over 90% of the black American vote who voted on racial Automatic, then the opposition needed to overcome that automatic vote in sufficient numbers to bal that anomaly. It’s like starting with in both cases 15-20% minus.

    Any democratic system knowing in advance of such built in anomalies have every right to seek to balance it by rising the bar for passage.

  12. I have no objection to Israel keeping all the land; but

    Omg, are we in luck…
    The american has no objections to Israel keeping all the land…

    So let’s try it again, american.
    They must go!
    Google expulsion of Germans from czechoslovakia, american, and you might get a preview of coming attractions.
    You want ISRAEL to pay for the bastards to leave??? Kerry asked a similar question in the line of how much would Israel contribute to the betterment of the musloid squatters …
    Are you two bastards related?
    And I am asking in the kindest way possible…
    🙂

  13. . I[t] doesn’t require a super majority to pass …

    Usually really important issues require a supermajority

    1) 60% is needed to break a Congressional filibuster

    2) 66.6% is needed to override a veto

    3) 75% of states are required to ratify an amendment

    So Ted is right to insist on a supermajority.

    The only question is how super? Since Ted wants no land giveaways I have to assume he wants it as super as possible.

    I have no objection to Israel keeping all the land; but she will then have to:

    1) Pay the Arabs to leave with money and residencies in other countries
    -or-
    2) enfranchise them (it can be done slowly, but not too slowly)

  14. Bill Narvey Said:

    Ted, have you actually read the proposed bill that is going before the Knesset in order to verify Jason Maoz’s report and to base your introductory remarks on?
    The referendum appears to concern putting before all Israelis for a vote, any deal to “give away” or better said “traded away” land of J & S captured in 1967 in return for whatever Palestinian concessions might be had. I presume that such referendum would be required whether there is a final or interim deal, so long as it involves trading away some parts of J & S land in return for Palestinian concessions.
    Please clarify.

    You’re smoking crack – the Arabs have not conceded an inch since 1988 in any of their positions. And the Jews are now finding themselves desecrating their own dead for the dubious privilege of sitting down in the same room with the killers of their children. There is no national honor left in Israel! If I was an Arab, I would say say the Jews DESERVE to be killed! Why? They think so little of the blood of their own people that nothing is sacred to them! Even an Arab cleaving an axe into a Jew’s skull doesn’t make them recoil in shame and horror!

    Palestinian concessions, indeed.

  15. Ted, have you actually read the proposed bill that is going before the Knesset in order to verify Jason Maoz’s report and to base your introductory remarks on?

    The referendum appears to concern putting before all Israelis for a vote, any deal to “give away” or better said “traded away” land of J & S captured in 1967 in return for whatever Palestinian concessions might be had. I presume that such referendum would be required whether there is a final or interim deal, so long as it involves trading away some parts of J & S land in return for Palestinian concessions.

    Please clarify.

  18. Its a joke!

    Then again Israel’s elected dictators know how to have it their way while managing to appear “democratic” at the same time.

    This so-called referendum bill fools no one.