Yesterday I posted an article attributed to Daniel Pipes in which he alledgedly wrote it was too late to bomb Iran. He wrote to me to disown it.
Dear Mr. Belman:
I have not said what you attribute to me at “Pipes explains why it is too late to bomb Iran” and these are not my sentiments. To the contrary, I believe the Iranian nuclear infrastructure should be destroyed.
I disavow this text. I have never spoken to the National Economic Alliance. (And, it is worth adding, the search engines turn up no such organization.)
Please indicate to your readership that you made an error in attributing this to me and indicate what my true view on the Iranian nuclear buildup is, as expressed in this note. In addition, please take down the text or attribute it correctly.
Yours sincerely,
Daniel Pipes
The only thing I like about the Russians are things like this and like this.
@ Shy Guy:
Shy Guy Said:
Oh!!
yamit82 Said:
What is it about the Russian Revolution and its decrees of property seizures and monetary confiscations, that you don’t understand?
@ Shy Guy:
Shy Guy Said:
And that is: Mah?
Felix Quigley Said:
Keep your filthy paws off of my property.
Ted
Please I ask you sioncerely, do follow this up, use some time and resources to do so.
Please if anybody has the knowledge, tell us how to verify and trace emails
We must be modern, cute and clever!
yAMIT
TRY TO GET THIS INTO YOUR THICK SKULL
I am Irish. I have no connection to Russia.
I have to the Russian Revolution of 1917 which I defend. Not to Stalinism. Not to Russia at present.
Also whisper this into the ear of your beloved Reagan. Got that. No interest in them.
But still the main enemy Jews face is America. And these countries like Russia, China and India are the rivals and enemies of America.
That is the basis for an alliance, of sorts, a wary alliance sure.
Laura can never take this onboard, that Israel would turn its weapons against America, because LAURA IS AN AMERICAN IMPERIALIST TO THE VERY CORE, AS I SUSPECT ALSO ARE THE GREAT MAJORITY ON ISRAPUNDIT.
You see Yamit it all comes to making this historical break with American Im`perialism. it is hard to do but harder if you blunt the point, AND YOU DID DO THIS. This is also why I ally myself with Gil White, despite inseparable differences.
Laura
And still soemthing useful in my opinion has come out of it
I do not know the science intimately but do know that this stuff is dammed dangerous
Where I live climate heating is cutting the population of lizards by 40 per cent. I wonder can yamit in Negev confirm this.
A system that is in serious crisis can do great damage.
We have to learn, please, to take on board facts which we would prefer to live our comfy lives and just turn away from. Please Laura do this. This is for us the hardest thing to do.
I face up tot he way they are screwing Israel. This is a total scandal and a blight on humanity.
They push Israel into a corner, submit or lash out best you can
laura I see the danger in the leadership of Israel. Shown in the Netanyahu/barak decision to censor the news coming from lebanon
But the dominanty enemy of Israel is NOT Iran, it is the US Government of Obama, and before of Bush, in future of Palin???? I said Israel must turn its weapons against America and announce to the American people, CUFI et al, why this is necessary
NO DOUBLE STANDARDS LAURA! AND YOU ARE FULL OF THESE DOUBLE STANDARDS, ALONG WITH REAGAN AND TED ET AL, EXCEPTING YAMIT BUT HE IS NOT CONSISTENT!
IS TYHE `POINT I MAKE HERE STUPID? If not stupid, if indeed intelligent, why not address itLaura, and others.
The great man Fistel you notice has been silent!
One thing about Yamit is that he will trade ideas and that is why there will be an alliance, a damned strange alliance, between me and Yamit.
ZIONISM LAURA DOES NOT TURN AWAY FROM IDEAS AND YOU DO, ALL THE TIME I HAVE KNOWN YOU HERE.
I take back what I said about Pipes. I knew there was something odd about the whole thing.
@ Felix Quigley:
Felix Quigley Said:
Not ally Felix we can have no ally, at least no trustworthy ally. I meant that we may enter into agreements for procurement of weapons we don’t or can’t produce ourselves and because the Russians like everybody else are as greedy and ruled by a high degree of self interest An Israel who does considerable and profitable trade with Russia balance to some degree their natural and historical instincts of fucking the Jews. Just the fact Israel is out from under the American orbit of influence is worth a lot to the Russians.
A Russian Veto in the Security council is every-bit as good as an American one and the Russians are not into preaching and moralizing. They don’t throw their friends and allies under the bus either. An Alliance ?god no, Who can trust the Russians, but agreements based on current and near future self interests is what I can see.
How is this inconsistent with any of my previous staements?
If your comments gets held for moderation or marked as spam, DON’T REPOST IT. Leave it to me to release it. We have reset our filter and it will be moculated over time.
@ Felix Quigley:
I got it in an email. Now that you mention it, it smacks of what certain people having been doing in my name in many other blogs. They are commenting as Ted Belman and setting out thoughts the opposite of mine just as they did here with Pipes. I think it is the works of Pesky.
@ Felix Quigley:
Felix Quigley Said:
Alex Jones I don’t know, so I won’t comment on your comment.
In a way Felix it is sort of like a conspiracy theory in that we know the beginning and we know what the end is going to be. We have a lot of free will on how we reach that end-zone. A small nation such as Israel wouldn’t manage to survive over the ages. A small and weak nation such as Israel, would not manage to serve as a light unto the nations. A small nation like Israel, wouldn’t influence the whole world, raise itself above the nations, make a name for itself, and manifest its legacy with such greatness. And Israel doesn’t even exist. Only a remnant has remained over the ages, and only a body has been reborn, for the spirit of Israel has yet to be restored.
A small nation such as Israel would never have amounted to anything on its own, just as a body is dead without its soul. And the spirit of Israel can never be broken. Israel stands alone and yet its spirit cannot be ignored. For the spirit of Israel is stronger than every weakness and greater than everything petty. Most nations contain the spirit of life, like the spirits that animate animals; but Israel contains something more; Israel has a soul.
G-d Sought to Educate humanity, Choosing the seed of Abraham, His servant, as the Light bearers in the darkened world, and Handing down the Torah through Moses, as a Guide towards Redemption.
The nations have followed the desires of men and have animated themselves with physical pleasures. While the body is only a tool to please the soul, the nations have used it to imprison the Breath of G-d, and they use the gift of godliness to pervert the flesh and ruin the physical world that is theirs. The nations have disgraced themselves and mocked G-d, by forcing the spirit of man to become like that of the animals, and saying they are flesh and G-d is mere matter. G-d Created man like the other Creations; as flesh. But man is of G-d, for man is of the Breath of G-d–people are G-d within a body. But instead the nations bowed down to G-d’s Creations, as if to say G-d is only worth His products and the Creator of the universe and everything in it, is less important than the dust of our small planet. Like the animals that walk around preoccupied with themselves, the nations have behaved like sheep, oblivious to the Greater Things; ignoring the Reason of their souls and not realizing there Is Something More.
But Israel stands for Something More; therefore Israel has a soul. Israel is a nation of G-d, a nation that walks with G-d, and is Animated by the Breath of G-d. The spirit of Israel is of G-d and G-d Rules Israel. Therefore Israel cannot be defeated, for who can defeat G-d? When Israel is with G-d and G-d Is With Israel, Israel becomes a great nation, a Light unto the nations, and the nations bless themselves through Israel, for Israel is a blessing unto the world. When Israel is with G-d and G-d Is With Israel, no nation can defeat Israel, because G-d Defends His people, Israel, for the sake of mankind. G-d Defends Israel for the sake of humanity; that people might redeem themselves, live according to their purpose, and walk in the Ways of G-d.
A small nation such as Israel, has Something Infinite within it. Israel may be weak and limited, but it is infinite in its ability and all powerful in its force, for Israel gains its strength from a Limitless Source. But when Israel distances itself from G-d, it becomes like everyone else; limited by physicalities, bound within a body, and doomed by mortality. Because when Israel is not a nation of G-d, it is worth no more than the dust of its flesh and thus it is swept away by the tides of incidents. When Israel mocks G-d, it mocks itself, and when Israel disobeys the Word of G-d, it rebels against its own cause. G-d doesn’t Defend those that bow down to physicalities, because it was never His Intention to see spirits serve their flesh. But when the spirit of Israel is in control, the world confronts Something More. It is the soul of man, the Breathe of G-d; It Is G-d that is the Source.
“If we had lived in the second millennium BC, the millennium of Abraham, and could have canvassed all the nations of the earth, what would they have said of Abraham’s journey? In most of Africa and Europe, they would have laughed at Abraham’s madness and pointed to the heavens, where the life of earth had been plotted from all eternity … a man cannot escape his fate. The Egyptians would have shaken their heads in disbelief. The early Greeks might have told Abraham the story of Prometheus … Do not overreach, they would advise; come to resignation. In India, he would be told that time is black, irrational and merciless. Do not set yourself the task of accomplishing something in time, which is only the dominion of suffering. On every continent, in every society, Abraham would have been given the same advice that wise men as diverse as Heraclitus, Lao-Tsu and Siddhartha would one day give their followers: do not journey but sit; compose yourself by the river of life, meditate on its ceaseless and meaningless flow.”
“The Jews started it all—and by ‘it’ I mean so many of the things we care about, the underlying values that make all of us, Jew and Gentile, believer and aethiest, tick. Without the Jews, we would see the world through different eyes, hear with different ears, even feel with different feelings … we would think with a different mind, interpret all our experience differently, draw different conclusions from the things that befall us. And we would set a different course for our lives.”
Throughout our history there have been weaker elements who have shirked the sacrifices which Judaism entailed. They have been swallowed, long since, in the great majority; only the more stalwart have carried on the traditions of their ancestors, and can now look back with pride upon their superb heritage. Are we to be numbered with he weak majority, or with the stalwart minority? It is for ourselves to decide.”
There is a famous story in which the Kaiser asks Bismarck, “Can you prove the existence of God?” Bismarck replies, “The Jews, your majesty. The Jews.”
@ Felix Quigley:
Felix the comparison was meant to refer to general national personality characteristics. We all have them the Spanish, Italians, Germans and Russians and even I dare say the Irish. I grew up with the Irish and Italians ea has some specific and unique Characteristics of the Jews. That said, I suppose so do other cultures. I write what I know not what I can imagine. I leave that to ayn and Birdalone.LOL
@ Felix Quigley:
Felix Quigley Said:
Russia is a primary enabler of our enemies to arm and threaten us. They also seek to enhance their ability to mischief at our expense. We also owe them an historical debt of revenge and even if they were not arming our most threatening enemies I would nuke them just for the pleasure of seeing a hundred million of the vilest anti semites the world has known fry.
What ever rivalry there is between Russia and America and the West they juxtapose on one thing: Killing the Jews either directly as in the case of Russia not so long ago and today through proxies and surrogates.
Your point was not blunted only expanded upon.
@ Felix Quigley:
@ Felix Quigley:
Sorry about the Typo it wasn’t intentional Felix. I need a previewer and an editor or I’m floundering like a flounder.
Felix Quigley Said:
Now Felix, pip-squeak? 🙂 I’m sure you can conjure a better pejorative for me than that. Try again pls. I’m insulted by the banality of this
ancient term. I deserve better from you.
Ted
has somebody tried to set up Israpundit with this New Economic Alliance? Do you know why?
I give up with these comments. One goes through another doesn´t
Randy
You talk crap mate. I was never a hippy. Always opposed them and still do!
you do not explain anything about the material world we live in and you cannot, nor will you ever. I suspect you are not a young person and that your views are quite formed, even hardened by now.
Rather than me being a dogmatist Trotskyist it is in fact you who are the dogmatist. You place your label of conspiracy, illuminati etc over every single phenomenon, and this immediately creates a distortion, because you cannot examine the phenomenon.
Like Yamit82 you have no idea of the history of the socialist movement, even that it has a history, a very rich history indeed, one full of differences and contradictions. You and Yamit82 are terribly limited people, you have got great ignorance, but the worst of it is that you have an arrogance about you that stops you from learning. That is so serious.
These kinds of exchanges affirm that bourgeois Zionism is indeed bankrupt and that there needs to be a new leadership created. Gil White and others placed all their faith in this bourgeois Zionism, but then Gil White took a break for a couple of years. Look at his website http://www.hirhome.com and tell me what he has written in 2 years. And what a 2 years they are.
It is you Randy with your stunted and hardened little theories about New World Order who is most closest to the Hippies as I understood them.
People like you Randy just stick this term NWO onto everything. You are a fecking freak!
You could do well to investigate the writings of Jared Israel on the role of Ayers and his relationship witht eh American state machine, Obama AND the Republican McCain in the election (www.tenc.net)
That is REAL research. YOU explain nothing about anything.
Randy
The first thing I have to say to Randy is that although you seem to be a good person and I am sure friend you also are POLITICALLY SPEAKING one seriously fucked up human being.
But Randy you can be comforted in that you are not alone. Where have these conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones emerged out of. They are hitting the world like a plague at the moment, and they swing from New World Order, to Free Mason conspiracy, to Illuminati etc…and I suspect that they all are heading in the direction of the “Jewish Conspiracy to take over the world”, if not there already. I do not say that you Randy hold that latter view but take it from me these conspiracy theorists of the present are pure shit!
The first thing I have to say to Randy is that although you seem to be a good person and I am sure friend you also are POLITICALLY SPEAKING one seriously fucked up human being.
But Randy you can be comforted in that you are not alone. Where have these conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones emerged out of. They are hitting the world like a plague at the moment, and they swing from New World Order, to Free Mason conspiracy, to Illuminati etc…and I suspect that they all are heading in the direction of the “Jewish Conspiracy to take over the world”, if not there already. I do not say that you Randy hold that latter view but take it from me these conspiracy theorists of the present are pure shit!
And you know Randy you do not explain anything about the material world we live in and you cannot, nor will you ever. I suspect you are not a young person and that your views are quite formed, even hardened by now.
Rather than me being a dogmatist Trotskyist it is in fact you who are the dogmatist. You place your label of conspiracy, illuminati etc over every single phenomenon, and this immediately creates a distortion, because you cannot examine the phenomenon.
Like Yamit82 you have no idea of the history of the socialist movement, even that it has a history, a very rich history indeed, one full of differences and contradictions. You and Yamit82 are terribly limited people, you have got great ignorance, but the worst of it is that you have an arrogance about you that stops you from learning. That is so serious.
These kinds of exchanges affirm that bourgeois Zionism is indeed bankrupt and that there needs to be a new leadership created. Gil White and others placed all their faith in this bourgeois Zionism, but then Gil White took a break for a cpouple of years. Look at his website ww.hirhome.com and tell me what he has written in 2 years. And what a 2 years they are.
Why am I involved then? Because there is a contradiction here. Bourgeois Zionism can offer no way forward, but the Jews HAVE to find a way forward, or perish.
You and your conspiracy theorizing Randy…you fecking disgust me.
At such a time as this!
You make the Bible from being a historical and philosophical religious work into one big conspiracy theory. You actually tie in to the likes of Alex Jones, political method speaking that is.
Jews are in danger because American Imperialism has for a long time been allied with Islam, over issues of political power, inside of which is issue of oil.
Stick to the real world yamit and the discussion can continue.
Yamit do not be like a little coward and opportunist who runs to your God whenever you are in trouble.
Do not do that Yamit. Stand and fight like a real man!
Yamit
On every substantive point, not on silly psychoanalysis, the Irish are in NO way like the Jews. The Jews are formed by Judaism, the Irish by reactionary catholicism. But most important the Irish do not face antisemitism and in fact are creators of antisemitism.
You have a good mind Yamit, why waste it like this, making assertions that are rubbish!
Yamit
As I said Yamit you are anarchist in your politics! Thank you for clarifying that point!
Yamit
You have in the past OFTEN argued that Russia because it is on the receiving end from American Governments also is a potential ally of Israel. This is the thing about you Yamit82 that Bill Narvey often referred to, there is no fecking consistency with you and about you. A symptom of the disease!
Yamit
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That is my point. Aim your weapons at whoever is waging war on Israel.
But surely Russia is NOT primary in this war against Israel. I am saying to Fistel and it is he I was challenging that the NO 1 enemy of the Jews is the American Government with Britain et al in Europe in a subsidiary role to the American Government, and I mean all American Governments whatever their political complexion.
You blunt that point! Why?
I cannot get through WordPress code with substantive reply to conspiracy fecking theorists so I will try one liners
Yamit
“your little red Trotshy(sic)”
Something indeed from a little pip-squeak like you!
Well that went through, so try again
The first thing I have to say to Randy is that although you seem to be a good person and I am sure friend you also are POLITICALLY SPEAKING one seriously fucked up human being.
But Randy you can be comforted in that you are not alone. Where have these conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones emerged out of. They are hitting the world like a plague at the moment, and they swing from New World Order, to Free Mason conspiracy, to Illuminati etc…and I suspect that they all are heading in the direction of the “Jewish Conspiracy to take over the world”, if not there already. I do not say that you Randy hold that latter view but take it from me these conspiracy theorists of the present are pure shit!
And you know Randy you do not explain anything about the material world we live in and you cannot, nor will you ever. I suspect you are not a young person and that your views are quite formed, even hardened by now.
Rather than me being a dogmatist Trotskyist it is in fact you who are the dogmatist. You place your label of conspiracy, illuminati etc over every single phenomenon, and this immediately creates a distortion, because you cannot examine the phenomenon.
Like Yamit82 you have no idea of the history of the socialist movement, even that it has a history, a very rich history indeed, one full of differences and contradictions. You and Yamit82 are terribly limited people, you have got great ignorance, but the worst of it is that you have an arrogance about you that stops you from learning. That is so serious.
These kinds of exchanges affirm that bourgeois Zionism is indeed bankrupt and that there needs to be a new leadership created. Gil White and others placed all their faith in this bourgeois Zionism, but then Gil White took a break for a cpouple of years. Look at his website ww.hirhome.com and tell me what he has written in 2 years. And what a 2 years they are.
Why am I involved then? Because there is a contradiction here. Bourgeois Zionism can offer no way forward, but the Jews HAVE to find a way forward, or perish.
You and your conspiracy theorizing Randy…you fecking disgust me.
At such a time as this!
Ted
Test. Comments may be hitting some turbulence with the new (and wonderful) work by your very valued colleague on the site code
Addressed mainly to Randy but applies to all of Israpundit
The first thing I have to say to Randy is that although you seem to be a good person and I am sure friend you also are POLITICALLY SPEAKING one seriously fucked up human being.
But Randy you can be comforted in that you are not alone. Where have these conspiracy theorists like Alex Jones emerged out of. They are hitting the world like a plague at the moment, and they swing from New World Order, to Free Mason conspiracy, to Illuminati etc…and I suspect that they all are heading in the direction of the “Jewish Conspiracy to take over the world”, if not there already. I do not say that you Randy hold that latter view but take it from me these conspiracy theorists of the present are pure shit!
And you know Randy you do not explain anything about the material world we live in and you cannot, nor will you ever. I suspect you are not a young person and that your views are quite formed, even hardened by now.
Rather than me being a dogmatist Trotskyist it is in fact you who are the dogmatist. You place your label of conspiracy, illuminati etc over every single phenomenon, and this immediately creates a distortion, because you cannot examine the phenomenon.
Like Yamit82 you have no idea of the history of the socialist movement, even that it has a history, a very rich history indeed, one full of differences and contradictions. You and Yamit82 are terribly limited people, you have got great ignorance, but the worst of it is that you have an arrogance about you that stops you from learning. That is so serious.
These kinds of exchanges affirm that bourgeois Zionism is indeed bankrupt and that there needs to be a new leadership created. Gil White and others placed all their faith in this bourgeois Zionism, but then Gil White took a break for a cpouple of years. Look at his website ww.hirhome.com and tell me what he has written in 2 years. And what a 2 years they are.
Why am I involved then? Because there is a contradiction here. Bourgeois Zionism can offer no way forward, but the Jews HAVE to find a way forward, or perish.
You and your conspiracy theorizing Randy…you fecking disgust me.
At such a time as this!
Pipes seems to forget that Iran has promised almost eight million deaths in the form of Israelis, with a few ‘palestinians’, Syrians, Egyptians, Jordanians and Lebanese thrown in, when they get the bomb. Killing three million muslims instead of eight million Israelis seems a good trade-off to me (even though I would be sorry to see India suffer).
He also seems to forget that military action can take many forms. And if he is aware that a nuclear bomb is too dangerous, rest assumed that the Israelis have known this for years.
How about dropping a few small bombs that seals the installations shut? Dead workers, no bombs! How about damaging the delivery systems? How about taking out the currant regime? How about instigating a mini-war between Iran and Iraq keeping them too busy to worry about bombing Israel?
Every sane person in the world knows that the nuclear bomb is only to be used as a deterrent. The problem is that the muslims are not sane. This does not automatically mean that sane will use insane methods that endanger a quarter of the world’s population. To think that Israel, of all nations would do this, is laughable.
Remember that ‘Star Trek, Next Generation’ episode where they encountered the Borg? The Borg were stronger in every way and the crew of the starship Enterprise were concerned that they had finally met their match. Then Data comes up with the idea of sending a low level message, telling all the Borgians go to sleep.
I expect the Israelis to come up with something as creative and effective. After all, how hard can it be for a country excelling in the 21st century to defeat a country still in the 7th century?
The following is Instant Messaging from Mark Zuckerberg, who is the CEO of Facebook:
For some reason, Obama’s attitude towards his Jewish supporters immediately leaps to mind.
So we are supposed to just live with a nuclear armed Iran and all of its consequences? Pipes is full of crap and no longer has any credibility. I won’t read anything he ever writes again. Why would he suddenly change his mind, what is his real motivation behind this change? If this is all true, he would have been aware of it before. But it would seem to me he is making this stuff up. What he is describing will happen anyway if iran has nuclear weapons. It seems we have nothing to lose with a military strike.
So what. It’s either them or us.
Mine too after an hour and a half of work; but I didn’t complain because it was only two sentences.
Yamit, it’s probably too late now, but when that happens you may be able to recover your work by hitting back until the screen appears with the box you were working in—copy the text then you can try posting it again or save it somewhere and post it later—if it was a lot of work.
Ted my reply to Felix disappeared after an hour of work
@ Felix Quigley:
Last first Felix :
I have always agreed with you mostly on cause and effect issues with the exception that I disagree with dialectic materialism.,
To prove my point I submit the Arabs who cl themselves Palestinians who choose poverty over a materially good life.
I offer our ultra orthodox religious who choose poverty rather than assimilate into our materialistic modern society.
Most people when offered the opportunity of liberty choose it over statism and most over comfort if they are the two options.
Even communists were patriotic and gave their lives to the motherland. Given a free choice between liberty and state control in any form over
most if not all aspects of a persons life most would choose liberty.
The Russian Slavs may be the worlds unique exceptions to this postulate. You chose freely dictatorship over liberty. The Russian are even more
fucked up than the Jews. The Jews adapt it’s part of our DNA for the past 2k yrs. That is they adapted up until a generation or two before
this one.
Looking at the Jews in the diaspora today, most wouldn’t know how to handle real hardship and deprivation. I hate to have to describe what they
would consider hardship. Yhey are for the most part not made of the sterner stuff survival requires and they won’t period.
This statement has nothing to do with leadership but then what is leadership but a reflection of those to be led.
Here in Israel the leadership is in our power, within hours or days they can be thrown out and mowed down like with Rabin. It’s in our hands.
Not so in the diaspora where they are dependent on the government and it’s institutions to protect and provide for their physical security.
Ultimately the system won’t protect them but who can move them from their necessary trust and belief.
Take two sedatives and go to sleep Felix,or some good Irish but who you talking about? Hundreds of millions? You are delusional and must be
on something I’m sure .
Workers of the world unit!!!! Foe whom? The Jews!! 🙂
Fuck your parties Felix I have said upteenth time: Principles precede movements and we can’t agree on principles. Jews are a lot like the
Irish and you should know how unruly they are as well as dam near ungovernable, argumentative, and contrary.
I would aim our nukes at washington as well and In your list of perfidious nation hating Jews you conveniently omitted our favorite trouble
maker and Jew hater RUSSIA. I’m sure that was an oversight Felix. 😉
If it comes down to Israel being destroyed do you think we care who we take with us? It’s up to the world to keep us intact and healthy at
their own peril.
Looks to me that the world is becoming suicidal.
If I were you I would look to your Christian brothers and sisters because what they wish for us will be dumped on them instead of us.
How do I know? The bible tells me so.
Don’t have a heart attack over my reference to the Bible or G-d but we will see soon enough who is correct my Bible or your little red Trotshy
book.
Part one:
The truth of the matter Felix, is in the end, the enemy is socialism on a global scale.
America is stepping down so power can be shared/consolidated globally; Obama has arrived to make sure of that. The imperialism you despise has all the while actually been social imperialism—not a national imperialism—an imperialism of leftism which fully intends to restructure the world system into a New World Order.
There have been ambitions for a New World Order rooted in both parties—right and left—for decades. The struggle we have observed between the two sides has for the most part been over the ideology a New World Order should embrace—whether the Order should be founded upon Western democracy, or bound together by shared interests in a Marxist system. Either way, the idea has been that the most ‘intelligent’, an elite ruling class—Plato’s Philosopher Kings—would rule as an oligarchy.
Well, the Leftists one worlders have won out; the Soros version has trumped the H.W. Bush version.
It seems therefore, Felix, you are one of your imperialists. The Marxists hippies grew up—in body if not mind—and are now the politicians, finance managers, corporatists,etc… they control most everything. They are the new Establishment.
My favorite term for this modern leftists movement is ideo-fascism, but the term liberal fascism works too.
As for Palin, I don’t think they like her, otherwise she would be portrayed much differently by the government media complex.
The truth of the matter Felix, is in the end, the enemy is socialism on a global scale.
America is stepping down so power can be shared/consolidated globally; Obama has arrived to make sure of that. The imperialism you despise has all the while actually been social imperialism—not a national imperialism—an imperialism of leftism which fully intends to restructure the world system into a New World Order.
There have been ambitions for a New World Order rooted in both parties—right and left—for decades. The struggle we have observed between the two sides has for the most part been over the ideology a New World Order should embrace—whether the Order should be founded upon Western democracy, or bound together by shared interests in a Marxist system. Either way, the idea has been that the most ‘intelligent’, an elite ruling class—Plato’s Philosopher Kings—would rule as an oligarchy.
Well, the Leftists one worlders have won out; the Soros version has trumped the H.W. Bush version.
It seems therefore, Felix, you are one of your imperialists. The Marxists hippies grew up—in body if not mind—and are now the politicians, finance managers, corporatists,etc… they control most everything. They are the new Establishment.
My favorite term for this modern leftists movement is ideo-fascism, but the term liberal fascism works too.
As for Palin, I don’t think they like her, otherwise she would be portrayed much differently by the government media complex.
Filex, you have almost won, you should be happy—but then, this is not at all what you imagined leftist socialism would look like, is it?
Well, this is it, socialism; and by the time it is over it will look a whole lot different. Then you will really really hate how it all worked out. But of course, they just did it the wrong way, right?—like every other time socialism has been tried.
It is they way socialism will end every time, Nazism, Marxism, Obamism, Sorosism, whatever—every form, every time.
Test
Seriously,
The truth of the matter Felix, is in the end, the enemy is socialism on a global scale.
America is stepping down so power can be shared/consolidated globally; Obama has arrived to make sure of that. The imperialism you despise has all the while actually been social imperialism—not a national imperialism—an imperialism of leftism which fully intends to restructure the world system into a New World Order.
There have been ambitions for a New World Order rooted in both parties—right and left—for decades. The struggle we have observed between the two sides has for the most part been over the ideology a New World Order should embrace—whether the Order should be founded upon Western democracy, or bound together by shared interests in a Marxist system. Either way, the idea has been that the most ‘intelligent’, an elite ruling class—Plato’s Philosopher Kings—would rule as an oligarchy.
Well, the Leftists one worlders have won out; the Soros version has trumped the H.W. Bush version.
It seems therefore, Felix, you are one of your imperialists. The Marxists hippies grew up—in body if not mind—and are now the politicians, finance managers, corporatists,etc… they control most everything. They are the new Establishment.
My favorite term for this modern leftists movement is ideo-fascism, but the term liberal fascism works too.
As for Palin, I don’t think they like her, otherwise she would be portrayed much differently by the government media complex.
Filex, you have almost won, you should be happy—but then, this is not at all what you imagined leftist socialism would look like, is it?
Well, this is it, socialism; and by the time it is over it will look a whole lot different. Then you will really really hate how it all worked out. But of course, they just did it the wrong way, right?—like every other time socialism has been tried.
It is they way socialism will end every time, Nazism, Marxism, Obamism, Sorosism, whatever—every form, every time.
@ ayn reagan:
Seriously,
The truth of the matter Felix, is in the end, the enemy is socialism on a global scale.
America is stepping down so power can be shared/consolidated globally; Obama has arrived to make sure of that. The imperialism you despise has all the while actually been social imperialism—not a national imperialism—an imperialism of leftism which fully intends to restructure the world system into a New World Order.
There have been ambitions for a New World Order rooted in both parties—right and left—for decades. The struggle we have observed between the two sides has for the most part been over the ideology a New World Order should embrace—whether the Order should be founded upon Western democracy, or bound together by shared interests in a Marxist system. Either way, the idea has been that the most ‘intelligent’, an elite ruling class—Plato’s Philosopher Kings—would rule as an oligarchy.
Well, the Leftists one worlders have won out; the Soros version has trumped the H.W. Bush version.
It seems therefore, Felix, you are one of your imperialists. The Marxists hippies grew up—in body if not mind—and are now the politicians, finance managers, corporatists,etc… they control most everything. They are the new Establishment.
My favorite term for this modern leftists movement is ideo-fascism, but the term liberal fascism works too.
As for Palin, I don’t think they like her, otherwise she would be portrayed much differently by the government media complex.
Filex, you have almost won, you should be happy—but then, this is not at all what you imagined leftist socialism would look like, is it?
Well, this is it, socialism; and by the time it is over it will look a whole lot different. Then you will really really hate how it all worked out. But of course, they just did it the wrong way, right?—like every other time socialism has been tried.
It is they way socialism will end every time, Nazism, Marxism, Obamism, Sorosism, whatever—every form, every time.
Seriously,
The truth of the matter Felix, is in the end, the enemy is socialism on a global scale.
America is stepping down so power can be shared/consolidated globally; Obama has arrived to make sure of that. The imperialism you despise has all the while actually been social imperialism—not a national imperialism—an imperialism of leftism which fully intends to restructure the world system into a New World Order.
There have been ambitions for a New World Order rooted in both parties—right and left—for decades. The struggle we have observed between the two sides has for the most part been over the ideology a New World Order should embrace—whether the Order should be founded upon Western democracy, or bound together by shared interests in a Marxist system. Either way, the idea has been that the most ‘intelligent’, an elite ruling class—Plato’s Philosopher Kings—would rule as an oligarchy.
Well, the Leftists one worlders have won out; the Soros version has trumped the H.W. Bush version.
It seems therefore, Felix, you are one of your imperialists. The Marxists hippies grew up—in body if not mind—and are now the politicians, finance managers, corporatists,etc… they control most everything. They are the new Establishment.
My favorite term for this modern leftists movement is ideo-fascism, but the term liberal fascism works too.
As for Palin, I don’t think they like her, otherwise she would be portrayed much differently by the government media complex.
Filex, you have almost won, you should be happy—but then, this is not at all what you imagined leftist socialism would look like, is it?
Well, this is it, socialism; and by the time it is over it will look a whole lot different. Then you will really really hate how it all worked out. But of course, they just did it the wrong way, right?—like every other time socialism has been tried.
It is they way socialism will end every time, Nazism, Marxism, Obamism, Sorosism, whatever—every form, every time.
The truth of the matter Felix, is in the end, the enemy is socialism on a global scale.
America is stepping down so power can be shared/consolidated globally; Obama has arrived to make sure of that. The imperialism you despise has all the while actually been social imperialism—not a national imperialism—an imperialism of leftism which fully intends to restructure the world system into a New World Order.
There have been ambitions for a New World Order rooted in both parties—right and left—for decades. The struggle we have observed between the two sides has for the most part been over the ideology a New World Order should embrace—whether the Order should be founded upon Western democracy, or bound together by shared interests in a Marxist system. Either way, the idea has been that the most ‘intelligent’, an elite ruling class—Plato’s Philosopher Kings—would rule as an oligarchy.
Well, the Leftists one worlders have won out; the Soros version has trumped the H.W. Bush version.
It seems therefore, Felix, you are one of your imperialists. The Marxists hippies grew up—in body if not mind—and are now the politicians, finance managers, corporatists,etc… they control most everything. They are the new Establishment.
My favorite term for this modern leftists movement is ideo-fascism, but the term liberal fascism works too.
As for Palin, I don’t think they like her, otherwise she would be portrayed much differently by the government media complex.
Filex, you have almost won, you should be happy—but then, this is not at all what you imagined leftist socialism would look like, is it?
Well, this is it, socialism; and by the time it is over it will look a whole lot different. Then you will really really hate how it all worked out. But of course, they just did it the wrong way, right?—like every other time socialism has been tried.
It is they way socialism will end every time, Nazism, Marxism, Obamism, Sorosism, whatever—every form, every time.
There is only one issue that relates to you, Felix Ivanovich Quigley.
The communists have murdered hundreds of millions of people and enslaved billions more.
Yet you remain a communist, and therefore I will not take you seriously.
So there.
Reagan
Please deal with the issues or else shut up!
Where I would disagree with you, Felix, is that I exonerate myself and Netanyahu from all responsibility.
However, when you blame yamit for the Iranian crisis, I believe that you are on solid ground.
The above by Samuel Fistel was written as I posted. So I would like to address it.
The things that I wrote in relation to Yamit82 and Reagan I refer also to “Samuel Fistel”. This is a man who projects as a true Jew and I do not dispute that, but as far as can be gathered from his writings he remains an individual. Is he connected with any party? Does he have any perspective for building an organization which will lead.
If not he falls into the exact position of Yamit.
The second thing about Samuel Fistel is that his continual use of the word “goyim” will tend to dismiss many hundreds of millions of people who can be won to the side of the Jews.
The two things go together. Fistel dismisses these allies of the Jews, and he also dismisses the perspective of a leadership organization.
So then he remains in the same position as Yamit, an individual writing on an obscure web site, with no links to anywhere. Not quite true, an individual does have some links, but they are so limited to be meaningless.
The issue of leadership party is not simple or easy, but at least there must first be the perspective.
As I see it people like Fistel are leading their people straight into the gas chambers one more time, and his reference to Samson is really a kind of foolhardy bluff.
The type of foolhardy bluff and dare I say just pure guff is shown in this
Not really so Fistel.
The most serious enemy of the Jews now is Obama, the Obama Government, the Republican Government that would follow on, which would include Palin.
If you point your weapons anywhere then do include the American Governmental state, which is doing far more damage to Israel and Jews than is either Ahmadinejad or Abbas, because in the end these are the “babies” of US Imperialism.
So pay attention to this.
If Europe and America threaten Israel with a state on its border which is a serious danger then why attack the running boys, why not get to the essence of the matter, and point your weapons at Berlin, London and Washington.
Fistel actually is evading the central issue there.
The American people must be made to understand just how serious is this situation, that their Government is waging war on Israel.
What do you do to a Government which wages war?
Do you send them a card Fistel, or do you let them know that you are pointing your weapons against the forces of American Imperialism.
Once Ted (what an innocent) asked me to define Imperialism!!!
Well first thing for Israel to do is expel Mitchel, expel his spies, expel also the American army from its spying operation in the Negev, (Yamit is silent on this why?)
Make clear to the American people that their Government Obama is waging war on them.
Ask Pipes, Spencer, Geller, Bostom etc to take up a position in support of this move.
Israel has indeed the complete right to turn its nuclear weapons against London, Paris, Germany and America.
It is these who are behind Ahmadinejad.
Fistel leaves out the obvious. It is well known for a decade at least that America can paralyse Iran overnight on the petrol refining issue. But they do not because they are behind Iran. Striking oil fields there is really stupid, it is the American oilfields in the Gulf of Mexico that you should be striking.
I asked Ted to discuss that issue, why are they behind Iran, and Ted betrayed me by refusing to print my article on this.
Infact Fistel like ted and all others on Israpundit are a cover for the real enemy, that is US Imperialism!
There are many aspects to this and it is not easy to do them justice because the lives of hundreds of millions are at stake. The murder of Jews historically has been merely the prologue.
The first is that the capitalist system is in historical crisis. Post the defeat of the Stalinist “Soviets” the ideologues of capitalism such as Fukuyama were talking in terms of the “end of history” as they believed capitalism was the answer forever, and we see now what in a few short years has happened.
The drive to war does not just come from Iran and Islam, it emerges out of this capitalist system, of which Islam is a part, and an important part with its oil reserves etc. Spencer and Geller forget that.
This drive to war is also accompanied by a renewed antisemitism where the antisemites of Islam are uniting with the antisemites in the West.
In the west this centres on the practical alliance of Europe and America with Islam and Iran, thus isolating Israel, and setting the Jews up for a Holocaust, similar type of situation as in post 1929 in Europe.
The problem is that Netanyahu, Yamit and Reagan see only the one side to the necessary answer to this. They see only the military strike against Iran. (If I am mistaken enlighten me)
Netanyahu and Yamit of course are different. Netanyahu wants to lull the Israeli people to sleep on the Northern front, and actively stops IDF Generals from broadcasting to the world the active build up of Hizbullah rockets, supplied by Iran. Netanyahu is censoring the news as good as any Stalinist dictator ever did.
But Yamit82 himself plays a definite role also and it is subsidiary to Netanyahu, no matter how much he detests this leader. Rightly detests him, his instincts here are good.
This is because the issue can only be resolved by an active people and this depends totally on releasing their energy through correct leadership.
As regards this leadership both Yamit82 and Reagan, Gil White also in my opinion, have no perspective to resolve this issue of leadership. it is immensely difficult but there must be (at least) the perspective.
The position of Netanyahu is totally tragic. He is saying that the issue of Iran is an existential question for Israel and so it is. But it can only be answered by a determined action on all fronts, and especially on the front of telling the truth to the Israeli and American people.
But how could Yamit82 do any better in this regard. He is nothing in Israel except one individual which is why he spends his time on an obscure site in America. But the worst is that he has no perspective for being anything else.
He is a kind of “anarchist” in that narrow sense of the meaning of the word. He expects somehow things to eventually work in the favour of the Jews.
This approach makes me angry. It is the same reliance on fate that caused the Jews, and unfortunate little children like Anne Frank, to be rounded up by the antisemite bullies.
Jews and Israel cannot withdraw on any front. The answer has to be absolute in their face, that is the antisemites I mentioned above.
But the issue of leadership is the key issue and is the tester.
All on Israpundit deny this issue. When the key factor of the historical precedent of Leon trotsky is raised you all go apoplectic. Ted will not touch my thought with a barge pole. Reagan actually disgusts me with her petty hatreds and her meaningless attacks on “liberals” which nobody has yet defined, handy enough for Reagan, at least her scribblings amuse herself.
There is much in what Pipes says and must not be discarded.
But in opposition to these creeps like Finkielkraut Israel, and any nation of people, do have the right to use all methods to defend their people. Pipes is now saying they do not.
Man and the genius of man has indeed developed the most incredible forces, but these are in danger of being unleashed in a violent manner against mankind.
End capitalism or accept what it deals you.
The oil fields are always a good target:
Even if it is too late to eradicate the Iranian nuclear sites, the oil feilds are always a target. Iran’s economy, for what it is worth, is based solely on oil. The oil fileds are easy targets, always accessible, and difficult to defend. They can be hit from the air or the sea, or by crusie missiles, with nuclear or conventional warheads.
The vulnerabilitly of the oil fields in the Persian Gulf, arab as well as iranian, provides Jewish Israel with another Samson option in case the goyim decide to close in for the kill.
Top Samson options: 1) first and foremost, the Dome of the Rock and the al-Aqsa mosque. 2) Mecca 3) Medina 4) the persian gulf oil fields.
To counter the Samson options, Obama, Russia, and the muslims want first to denuclearize Jewish Israel, and then to impose a complete arms embargo.
Pipes is probably correct that it’s too late!
We should nuke em anyway!! Nuke a few remote oil fields and all knowm Missile and Rocket silos and launchers.
A Localized EMP attack need not affect an area greater than what we target.
Read article below on EMP, enlightening.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpuyPfAZRTU&feature=fvsr
Introduction
There is reason to believe the Iranian regime is working toward a capability that could destroy America as we know it. A report to the Congress last year found a single nuclear weapon detonated in space high above the U.S. could unleash an immensely powerful electromagnetic pulse (EMP). An EMP wave would damage or destroy the electrical grid upon which our society utterly depends.
The Problem
A massive current of EMP (electro-magnetic pulse) could be unleashed with catastrophic effect on the United States if a nuclear weapon is detonated high above the earth’s atmosphere. The energy of this pulse would interact with the Earth’s magnetic field, affecting – and possibly destroying – every piece of unshielded electronic gear and power grids in line-of-sight of the detonation, all at the speed of light.
What is more, the higher the altitude of the weapon’s detonation, the larger the affected area would be. At a height of 300 miles, the entire continental United States would be exposed to EMP attack, along with parts of Canada and Mexico.
As a result, America could be transformed from a 21st Century superpower into a pre-industrial society almost instantaneously.