Use GBU-28 Bunker Buster before ground invasion

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1. Peloni

   This assertion that Russia will come to the defense of Ukraine is as false as the assertion

   I think you mean Iran.
   I totally agree with you take and dissapointment on Macgregor.

2. Hi, Peloni

   As in all things, when the only Jewish State is treated differently, demanded to accept barbarism without remedy, and attacks without war, without further explanation to excuse such a double standard, it must be seen to be based in antisemitism, and this is true of far more than just McGreggor, though I have to admit that I am quite surprised and disappointed to see him embrace such a dishonest role as he has done.

   Why on earth should I even consider the words of an antisemite who uses double standards?

   Of course, you have used one standard with respect to Russia, justifying its refusal to accept the Ukrainians as a people, while denying this justification to the Gazans. If MacGregor is thereby an Antisemite, are you not Antieuropean?

   There is no profit in your arguments. MacGreggor rightly says that Israel’s present course of action is a one-way ticket to Armageddon — not in the Ukraine, but in Israel. You ought to be concerned with the latter.

3. One thing more to mention about McGreggor’s comments, and there are many other points which could be noted as well, is that he asserts that Russia will go to war with the West on behalf of Iran, when Russia has yet to go to war with the West on behalf of Russia itself as Western assets, munitions, and in some unknown numbers, soldiers have been employed in the Ukraine war to defeat Russia directly.

   This assertion that Russia will come to the defense of Ukraine is as false as the assertion that China would come to the defense of Russia. These are uniquely separate nations, who do not act as a collective core as the West has been trying to assemble of the world’s many nations. Of course the Europeans, being European, were happy to sell their nationality in pursuit of such folly, but these other nations, such as Russia, should not be seen to be trapped into taking actions in the defense of others when they are yet to do so for their own defenses.

   You should listen to the interview by Alex Grinberg, an expert on Iran, Russia, and the Arab world, to gain a better appreciation of the association rather than union which exists between these member of the BRICS.

   Russia’s salvation lies in peace in the middle east, not war, which is why she will not likely act to widen this war, but will instead try as she has been doing to force Israel into not pursuing the insult which Russia would never have accepted against her own people.

   **The audio in the Grinberg interview is attrocious, but I would suggest that it is well worth the effort to hear.

4. @Michael
   How could any fair minded person agree that Israel should not respond to the savagery which has been plied against it, while describing military responses as ‘collective punishment’, and national defense as war crimes.

   You must take a moment and consider exactly what McGreggor is stating, and how it departs from what he asserts to be true for Russia, and then draw the obvious conclusion of what that distinction states about both what he says and his own world view.

   Unlike Russia, who was reacting to a clear and present threat upon their border, within their spere of influence, Israel was actually attacked by Hamas, with the most savage abuse of humanity that they inflict upon the native population within her own borders. The clarity which such a distinction between reacting to an impending threat and reacting to an actual attack can not remotely miss McGreggor’s grasp, as he has demonstrated himself to be a good student of history and an active participant in the puruit of war and geopolitical studies. Despite what should be an obviously easy call that Israel has every right and responsibility to anhillate the threat which actually stands within her borders, McGreggor calls for restraint, to accept having killed the fraction of the force which died while purpotrating the assault on the civilians and ignore the obvious result of doing so would target Israel as a nation of weakness in a region where only the strong are left to survive. He describes military responses as war crimes while demanding that aid be sent to the villains who did commit war crimes, and this demand for aid is itself another violation of international norms. None of this is remotely likely to escape McGreggor’s attention even as it obviously evades his interest to speak honestly about the situation.

   You and others have failed to appreciate the clarity and consistency of McGreggor’s arguments with regards to Russia, so you will likely see little change of position in McGreggor’s change of stance on what constitutes collective punishment rather than it being the necessary requirement of national defense. Despite your failure to do so, you should go back and reassess his previous comments, as they are quite inconsistent with his comments of late, naturally applying only to Israel. As in all things, when the only Jewish State is treated differently, demanded to accept barbarism without remedy, and attacks without war, without further explanation to excuse such a double standard, it must be seen to be based in antisemitism, and this is true of far more than just McGreggor, though I have to admit that I am quite surprised and disappointed to see him embrace such a dishonest role as he has done.

5. Peloni and Edgar, here’s one for you:

   Douglas MacGregor: “[We are heading for a war with Iran], and the chosen destination is indeed Armageddon.

   https://twitter.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1716574971206500570

   Do you agree with his conclusion?

6. Israel has their own made bunker busters which are fuel bombs that can be effective depending on the target.

   Currently I think Edgar maybe correct that it is likely that the hostages are underground or by now in Southern Gaza.

   They have a city underground where some Hamas leaders maybe. The city likely is the best fortified part of the tunnel city. Part of the tunnel city is under Gaza Hospital I believe (this is something I recall reading a few years ago).

   Some of the tunnel systems can be destroyed with things smaller than bunker busters. Breaking the tunnel system into disconnected pieces keeps the Hamas rats from scurrying from one section to the next. The more of it you can destroy from above will make Israeli soldiers safer when they do enter Gaza in large numbers.

7. @Edgar

   The Bunker busters they may have they want to keep for Iran.

   Yes, and to be used for this purpose as soon as possible.

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8. EvRe1

   The most obvious answer to this is that they believe that the captives are held below ground and they want to get them out unharmed, or as many as they can.

   besides, ONE bunker buster just devastates a defined area , which would be only a very small part of what they intend to do.
   The Bunker busters they may have they want to keep for Iran.

   My opinion only….

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9. This should be used to wipe out their tunnel city.

10. What holds the IDF back from using these bombs?

11. Yes, please, bomb them like they bombed Warsaw (“Operation Wasserkante”), Wielun and Frampol.

    “The bombing of Wielu?, one of the first military acts of World War II and the first major act of bombing, was carried out on a town that had little to no military value. Similarly, the bombing of Frampol has been described as an experiment to test the German tactics and weapons effectiveness. British historian Norman Davies writes in Europe at War 1939–1945: No Simple Victory: “Frampol was chosen partly because it was completely defenceless, and partly because its baroque street plan presented a perfect geometric grid for calculations and measurements.”

    Bomb them for their countless heinous crimes, the Warsaw Ghetto, the concentration camps, their murder.

    Rotterdam, The Hague, Coventry, London, Plymouth, Belgrad and Guernica.

    Bomb them like the Japanese bombed Shanghai, Wuhan, Chongqing and Canton.

    “For a year starting in June 1940, Italian bombers attacked Mandatory Palestine, mainly targeting Haifa and Tel Aviv for their large refineries and port facilities. The deadliest single attack came on 9 September 1940, when an Italian raid over Tel Aviv killed 137 people.”

    Oh! I’m sorry! I apologize, I confused the innocent “palestinian” people and the gazans with the also goodhearted “militant freedom fighters” of Hamas… (see and read CNN, Der Spiegel et al).
    But certainly you’ve all seen the videos of Arabs cheering here in Europe. Especially here in Berlin.

    So all these Westerners and Muslims want to teach us about “human rights”?!
    They want us to keep the “proportionality”: “Ok, Jews, we murdered, raped, defiled and beheaded over a thousand of your women and children, but you cannot be serious to bomb Gaza because of that, right? This would be a war crime.”

    So, please correct me if I’m wrong. Do they expect us to equally murder, rape, defile and behead 1,500 arab women and children?
    No, of course not. They want us to walk together, calmly and civilizised in a row (as to be expected from a Jew), from the freight wagon into the gas chamber. Just like back then in the good ole’ times of Auschwitz. In doubt ask annalena baerbock or any other german politician or expert in “international law”.

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