[T. Belman. I highly recommend you read and distribute the Sovereignty Journal.]
Days before the March 17 elections, the Women in Green (WiG) movement has published issue number five of its Sovereignty Journal, which features interviewswith right-wing politicians and thinkers in an attempt to shift the public discourse towards declaring sovereignty over Judea and Samaria.
The new issue, which will be distributed in 120,000 copies in Hebrew and English and can be requested from WiG, includes interviews with politicians Knesset Speaker Yuli Edelstein (Likud), Economics Minister Naftali Bennett (Jewish Home), and Deputy Minister Ofir Akunis (Likud).
It also features interviews with the head of Palestinian Media Watch (PMW) Itamar Marcus, Prof. Moshe Arens, Prof. Eliav Shochetman and other right-wing thinkers, in addition to articles by Attorney Dafna Netanyahu and Jerusalem Post editor Caroline Glick.
WiG heads Yehudit Katsover and Nadia Matar emphasized that the journal issue is important given that the public is caught up in the leftist parties debating social and economic matters ahead of elections, and losing sight of how behind these issues the left aims to establish “a Palestinian terror state in the heart of the Land of Israel.”
“As of now, the White House has been working hard to hide as much as possible the plans that are under consideration until the day after the elections and they are careful not to attack the Israeli right, since they understand that this would cause an increase of support for this camp, but after the ballots have been counted, the political pressure cooker is expected to burst,” the WiG leaders said.
They said the new issue of the journal is meant “to strengthen those who carry the banner of battle against a nuclear Iran; to strengthen those who are leading the battle against the idea of dividing the Land and establishing a terror state in its heart; and to strengthen those who are leading the camp that is restoring the People of Israel to Zionist values, to settlement and to security.”
Edelstein revealed in his interview “diplomats and journalists of the world that I meet accept the discussion of an alternative to the Oslo theory. Even if they do not change their positions, they understand that this is a legitimate stance.”
“I present the practical argument that proves to them that the idea of two states is no longer relevant. I explain to them that the time has come to try something else. Up until now we have tried to short-cut the Oslo process, with the Disengagement and other steps. It did not work. Let’s try another way,” he concluded.
Bennett warned that “a Palestinian state would collapse the Israeli economy. Ben Gurion Airport would be paralyzed, there would be no tourism, there would be no commerce, we would return to the economic collapse of the days of the second intifada and they would run away from here.”
“There is absolutely no basis for determining that any other body on earth should have sovereignty over the western Land of Israel other than the Jewish people,” stated Prof. Shochetman. “This is how it is according to international law.”
Attorney Dafna Netanyahu noted that in Judea, Samaria and Gaza there is “a sort of state in an embryonic stage.”
“Hamas’ and the PA’s (Palestinian Authority) principle goal is one thing: the destruction of the State of Israel, killing the Jews that are in it, and aided by the Muslim territorial contiguity that would be created from Iran to the Mediterranean Sea – turning it into a bridgehead of the Arab nation’s and Islam’s attack on the Western world,” she continued. “One need not be a prophet in order to know what a monster would be born from the Palestinian ’embryonic state’ in Judea and Samaria.”
Between 1967 and today, did Israel ever offer citizenship to the residents of Judea and Samaria.
I know you did to East Jerusalem, and the Golan. Why didn’t Israel offer citizenship to Arabs in Judea and Samaria?!
We all know why.
Understandably, you want the land with as few Arabs on it as possible.
But this is not sustainable, and you know it. Keeping such a large population under military rule, with no say in the goverment which rules over their population registry, borders, airspace, movement, and minerals, is a recipe for continued strife.
You would never accept it. Why do you expect the Arabs would?
Then keep the Arabs. This is not about extortion. It is not about victory. In fact, the victory would be to Israel.
It is about getting the Arabs you detest – and whom detest Israel – out of the land, so you can have a more Jewish, Jewish state.
However, you do not want to get on board the project.
Then keep the Arabs, and their Islamic violence, and their nuttiness. Only don’t complain to me about it.
I do not care if you kill all the Arabs or ethnically cleanse them, but when you do … expect that the world will say in a loud and clear voice: “Israel is no better than us goyim.”
Expect Europe to cut off all Holocaust reparations then as an exercise in what the Euros will say is hypocrisy.
Keep them.
CuriousAmerican Said:
reubbish…. the west, the UN and arabs are funding the UNRWA and terror orgs at this moment, they have the money but need to direct it to bring a reasonable and sustainable outcome. right now they are pouring money into a hole that perpetuates the problem with no solution. If the idiots put their money into resettlement the problem would be solved. If they dont want to do that then they can continue with the arab spring in the ME and europe
CuriousAmerican Said:
right now the market price to europe is 10,000 which for 100,000 emigrants the cost is 1,000,000,000. It appears that you are trying to pull a fast one and your deal does not plague the euros. the pals are willing to pay themselves if they have the money, perhaps you can get them a loan to facilitate this much cheaper deal with added benefits.
CuriousAmerican Said:
one need not pay to dump the garbage when the garbage dump is a neighbor, simply drive them to the border and drop them over the line to plague and destabilize their brothers.
the garbage is already paying 10k to leave gaza for europe and 50% want to do the same but dont have the cash, meanwhile you are trying to sell us some worthless jellybeans at 20 times the price of a subsidy, and you have no added benefit of watching the euros deal with the plague they tried to visit on the Jews.
Perhaps you need some further advice from your sales manager as it is nigh impossible to sell something so high above market price unless you use extortion.
CuriousAmerican Said:
more lies, its about the jews paying money from their pockets, about making jews PAY,….. you know how those jews dont want to part with their money…. so making them pay would be a form of victory, of winning, of damaging the jews…..hit them in their pockets!
Your whole shpiel conjures up a form of extortion,, You say pay or else things will be bad for you……
you seek converts and would like the Jews to pay for it.
you should already know from the shylocke chronicles that the Jews would prefer to get a better price with more benefits and what could be a better bonus than watching the euros heads roll left and right for decades???????????
I am willing to pay to send them to europe a few K in addition to the money they are willing to pay just for the pleasure of plaguing the euros with Ishmael.
CuriousAmerican Said:
the goyim swindled, libeled, tourtured and slaughtered us for 2000 years while we did nothing to them to justify their despicable behaviior. we cannot ever be compared to the goyim. If we annihilate the arabs it would be because of their acts not their existence.
your comparison is an insult on top of being a lie. Only an insane person or an idiot could make such a comparison.
CuriousAmerican Said:
piddling pennies from the euroswindlers who have still an unpaid debt in blood and treasure.
when we herd the euros into cattle cars with the arabs and muslims and carry them to the ovens and gas chambers you will have a shred of truth to your comments, but only a shred as one who does in revenge to the other for what the other did to him is still not the same; as it is done justifiably in revenge for that done by the other.
Remember, we never bought the “cheek turning” that you folks tried to sell us.
CuriousAmerican Said:
Israel can indeed continue with the present policy because noise and rhetoric do not substitute for facts on the ground. with all the BDS noise Israel had its best quarter ever last quarter economically, militarily it put gaza in rubble with few IDF casualties, and security wise all the enemies are killing each other. time is on Israels side, the world will tire of the pals as the GCC leaders who whore, drink and gambol in london already are doing.
there need be no rush; the euros are slowly learning the futility of dealing with gaza and the arabs and although they hope to plague the jews with the honor killers it appears to be backfiring as their hired honor killers are chopping christian heads, destroying christian churches and driving christians out of the ME with every libelous BDS church slander of Israel. the euros are at the tipping point of frustration and will soon walk away. Internally europe is falling apart: the greece monetary crisis, the military crisis with the eastern front and Vlad, the acceleration of the internal gobbling of europe by the honor killer immigrants, the increase in boatloads promised by IS…
which leads me to your questionable nefarious deal which you regularly tout here like a phillipino telephone marketer who tries to sell me the same thing every day although he has already called me umpteen times and been rejected:
CuriousAmerican Said:
yes indeed, you want the jews to pay for that which the UN, arabs and western nations should and could pay…
I get heartburn with the thought of doing something good for those who send their toddlers to Jews killing summer training camps and teach their children in school that We are the sons of apes and pigs. I want such folks to suffer and do not wish to pay for a bright future for them. the current situation surrounding Israel is the ideal location for such folks and I have often suggested a) driving and dropping them across the border of syria and lebanon with whom israel has no treaty; b) withdrawing protection from the foreign hashemite stooge who occupies 80% of the mandate but obstructs the “pals” from immigrating there, arrange for his falling then enter afterwards to mop up the feces and install Teds favorite Jordanian in exile to open the jordan river to the pals entering jordan; AND
my absolute favorite which is a better deal than yours on every conceivable level because it kills 2 birds with one stone, is enormously cheaper, requires no agreements with anyone:
C) subsidize, fund, expand, existing criminal smuggling networks who now smuggle gazans to europe at a cost of 10k each. Unlike your very expensive proposal the gazans have been polled at 50% desirous of leaving for EUROPE!!! Hence this is a proven destination for them; a proven desire on their part to leave for that location; a WILLINGNESS TO PAY 10K to leave!!!! However too many do not have the funds so I propose a beginning of working with the existing covert criminal networks to expand and bring the price down to 5k and even less by opening new networks. Criminal networks in Israel surely know how to do this AND to work with criminal networks in gaza, etc.
Not only does this approach rid Israel of the trash but gives the trash to those who incite them against the Jews. The more muslims in europe the better because Europe in time will have so many internal problems they will have no time to plague the Jews. Note that arab spring turmoil reduced threat and pressure from the arabs… the same needs to be catalyzed in europe… an arab spring in europe… turmoil, civil strife, chaos, in a few decades when the smoke clears everything will have changed. remember that europe is very weak militarily and relies solely on its money which can easily disappear. a focus on the destabilization of europe would go a long way to reducing threats to Jews.
this is an enormous added bonus over your ludicrously expensive project seeking to bilk the jews with an air of extortion.
CuriousAmerican Said:
indeed, but you keep returning to bilk us with this tireworn hag of a vehicle at exorbitant and extortionate prices. 50-to 100k without the bonus of dumping them on the euros and the entertainment of watching them plague the euros.
CuriousAmerican Said:
they are already willing to pay 10k to go to europe if they have the cash, 50% of gazans polled,….
CuriousAmerican Said:
I just did 🙂
CuriousAmerican Said:
Since you have brought up this interesting assertion as a point for debate I must beg to differ:
the fact that you are trying to sell a product at an extortionate price when a lower priced product already exists on the market with a great deal more added benefit and less red tape should be evidence enough of the falsity of your assertion but the nail in the coffin is that you are trying to sell this white elephant to Jews??????
😛 😛 😛
CuriousAmerican Said:
Why are the MUslims converting. When did they convert?
Ted your site has been hacked.
Many times words are being replaced by false links.
You need to have your theme updated, and your database cleansed.
The word Chile is being converted to le in my posts above.
The thing to remember is where to put them.
Chile and Brazil are both in the midst of great Evangelical Revivals. Street preaching is common in both countries. They are 16% and 23% Evangelical, and those numbers are growing rapidly.
Muslims are not used to being prosyletized daily to accept Christ. In Arab countries, such prosyletization is dangerous to both parties. Recently, Lebanon was threatened with Civil War when a shiek’s daughter became Christian. (Click Here).
However, Brazil and Chile such prosyletization is legal. The Muslims have no psychological defenses against it. They can fight it only by majoritarian violence. In South America, they will be a powerless minority which no social ability to resist.
Case in point: Argentina. By the 1940s, most Muslims (only 1% or so) had started to drink wine. Most are not practicing.
If Muslims are not concentrated in neighborhoods where they can develop social structures to resist Christianization, they will assimilate.
Dove sees this as a contest, like vampires trying to steal Arab souls. Utterly ridiculous!
What is going on is that Israel needs to cull the Arab populations in Judea and Samaria. 25% of these Arabs are willing to leave. – Actually, among the young, the number is higher.
No country will absorb such an angry people without incentives. Hence, the need for them to arrive with cash.
$100,000 could by an individual Arab a house, a used car, and set them up in business in Chile, and/or Brazil. They would meet lots of Christian Arabs who would probably help them. They would also encounter street preachers against which they have no psychological defense.
The engines of assimilation would work. It would not occur overnight; but as long as Muslim barrios are not set up, they will, in one generation, become Latinos, probably elite ones.
What dove not see is that the money is not spent to Christianize them, but to get them to leave.
Now will pay the preachers to convert them. That they do freely.
How will complacent Muslims deal with preachers like this in Chile?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZ-L6IgMGIE
If the Muslims do not Christianize, then they will be socialized by flagrant sexuality in South America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TR90EHkUvm0
Sharia cannot compete with the tango.
This is doable, but the South American countries will not accept the Arabs without cash. If the cash is not forthcoming, the Arabs will remain in Judea and Samaria, where they will continue to plague the Jews.
If you think this is all nuts then look at this.
Evangelical Arab Church in Brazil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kPif95mKSo
This can be done if done intelligently, and co-ordinated with Evangelicals, who in South America, tend to be Zionist Christians.
Only Caroline Glick has noted this.
The GOI and the USA is ignoriing a major opportunity.
BTW: The Palestinian Christians in Chile (who tend to by Orthodox Christians) are furious at the Evangelicals over this, and their support for Israel.
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@ CuriousAmerican:
CA:
I think Babushka is one of the most perceptive commenters on Israpundit. Despite that, I think you have undertaken the task of uncovering useful information about trends in some of the large and significant countries in South America that surely impact on Israel’s relations with those societies. I know you are not Jewish as most of us are, but I think your opinions and facts that you cite are worth studying. Some of these folks are downright impolite, but don’t allow that to get under your skin.
By the way, and just for the record. I surely am a loyal son of the eternal Jewish nation. But I am also an old-fashoned European American who served the United States late in the Korean War and its aftermath, with two years active duty and one year reserve duty in the United States Army. And I want very much for this country to regain its virtues and rebuild its greatness.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
@ CuriousAmerican:
You are so pathetically wrong. Would you like me to go on a Christian website and flaunt and rub in Christians faces that if they don’t do better there will be more Christian heads chopped off?
I am better than that and no apology for it!
Much obliged.
If you want to annihilate them, fine! But then do not ever claim again that you are better than us goyim.
And when you are finished annihilating the Palestinians, count on Europe stopping all Holocaust reparations under the assumption that you are no different than Europeans.
Wrong!
This is about Jewish money to advance the Jewish cause – a less Arab Israel.
How much would it cost to kill them? That is what other countries do to people who wage wars of annihilation. The US did not relocate the Japanese to Chile. It nuked them.
Ask the Palestinians in Chile just one question:
If the Palestinian-Christian-Chileans really love Palestinians in Palestine, why not bring them to a better life in prosperous and democratic Chile, rather than leaving them stuck in a war zone, where even if the Arabs win they will be oppressed by satraps?
The Christian Palestinians in Chile may not trust the Jews, but they know that a common reason their ancestors fled the Mideast was to escape persecution at the hands of Muslims or to flee poverty under Muslim rule.
Why can’t an Israeli spokesman meet them to remind them, and offer them financial backing for relocation?
This is Iquique. The city in north Chile is a resort and 15% Arabic.
https://vimeo.com/22625985
It is a beach resort.
Okay, not the Riviera, think more of the a Louisiana Gulf port.
But still, it is prosperous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDr1r-PdzUQ
Iquique is a free port.
It has 190,000 people, and could easily absorb 3,000 Palestinians without any demographic problems.
And that is only city in Chile.
Vina del Mar has 280,000 – 20000 of whom are Palestinian Christian elites. It could absorb at least 5,000 Palestinians without too much trouble.
All immigrants to Chile are run through Catholic charities.
It will cost, but Chile is far cheaper than Europe or America, and unlike Europe or America, has a history of assimilating Arabs well.
Besides Chile is in the midst of an Evangelical Revival by Christian Zionists.
Instead of meeting screaming mullahs, this is whom they will meet on the street.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCaN8lnhBMU
They will assimilate in one generation.
So what happens is that Israel ignores talking to Evangelicals – who are willing to help – and the anti-Zionist Palestinian Orthodox Christians take over the narrative.
The GOI is to blame for doing nothing.
For $10 Billion, one could move 100,000 Palestinians to Chile which is 99% Christian, with Evangelicalism growing.
100,000 Palestinians would be equal to 1/2 of 1% of Chile.
It can be done.
Instead the GOI does nothing, while Palestinian Christians in Chile who have a lot of power, are being radicalized against Israel, when Israel should be making deal with them.
80% of the Arabs which went to South America were Christian, but 95% are Christian today.
90% of Argentine Arabs are Christians, but 40% of those Christians have one Muslim grandparent.
The Muslims (Saudis, and Iranians) are trying to make inroads, but if Israel and the Jewish community in Argentina and Chile pooled just a little money they could persuade the Palestinians in Chile and in Argentina to take in some of their countrymen in Judea and Samaria.
In Chile, all incoming Muslims go through a Catholic charity for help (the assimilation starts).
Right now anti-Israel feeling is ascendant, but it would not take to much to change it if Israel used its head.
The Arabs are assimilable provided you do not allow them to congregate together. Disperse them upon arrival. Most Chilean Palestinians are intermarried with Spanish, Italian or Germans in Chile.
Right now the GOI is doing nothing, and Latin Arabs are being radicalized against Israel, even though they are Christians, not Muslims.
It would not take too much effort for Israel to counter this. The anti-Israel viewpoint is winning because the Israeli government is doing nothing. As I watch Chile on the internet, it is turning against Israel. So Sad. Israel could counter this, if it was not ignoring it.
CuriousAmerican: You complain when Europeans are disparaged on this site. I contend that the Euroturds are being disparaged insufficiently.
Labour’s Hamas connection
An admirer of Islamist extremists could win his campaign to lead Britain’s main opposition party.
By Jake Wallis Simons
24/6/15, 5:30 AM CET
Updated 24/6/15, 10:52 AM CET
LONDON — The idea that an admirer of Hezbollah and Hamas should be a serious contender to lead the British Labour Party might seem fanciful. But amid the climate of confusion and self-doubt that plagues the freshly defeated opposition, this is exactly what is coming to pass.
Jeremy Corbyn, the 66-year-old hard-left activist who has made a career out of opposing “American and British imperialism,” is one of four candidates to succeed Ed Miliband as Labour leader. One poll, by the influential LabourList website, finds him the favorite, with his left-wing credentials and anti-austerity stance attracting unexpected numbers of Labour supporters eager to break with the legacy of Tony Blair.
But Corbyn has a dark side. Over the years, this old-fashioned Trotskyite — known for his ragged beard, shabby jackets and Leninist worker’s cap — has been linked to a range of extremists, from the IRA and 9/11 conspiracy theorists to Hamas.
http://www.politico.eu/article/labour-hamas-london-ira/
@ CuriousAmerican:
CA:
I do not always agree with your opinions, but I do not recall ever personally attacking you on these Israpundit commentaries.
Which is good, because the visual presentation you have provided us about the intermix of Arab and Latin American culture, and especially the apparently growing Christianization of many of those Arabs, provides useful insights that could be of benefit to everybody involved in the Zionist movement of the Jewish nation.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) has judged less than a week ago that Israel DOES not OCCUPY J & S nor Gaza.
Most assimilated Muslims, when confronted with Islamist fanatics, will reconsider their assimilation.
@ CuriousAmerican:
hahhaha
make the Jews pay – then the church will get their hands on them and convert them – OR you will use emotional blackmail against the Jewish state. Nice plan curio.
This is not about using Jewish money to advance the Christian cause – that would not be our motivation. Christians do not only live in the West. Sell off a bunch of those brand new half empty buildings – you could find the money.
We may need our money to buy more bullets and exercise our right and duty to protect the Jewish State and her law abiding people.
We don’t have the money. The West is broke.
Guess you are going to be stuck with the Arabs then, then. For decades longer, or at least until you figure out that you pay people to pick up the “garbage”; they do not pay you.
@ CuriousAmerican:
First of all I am not a his, I am a HER. Show me this ‘vile hatred’ you are referring to.
Just bear in mind that we don’t teach our children in school to hate and kill UNLIKE what the Muslim children in the ME are taught. So WHO is spreading this vile hatred??
It appears that your recommendation is to relocate Muslims at the Jews expense, assimilate them and turn them into Christians. If that is the case then I think you should be footing the bill!
Your vicious hateful accusation will some day come back to haunt you!
https://youtu.be/pXs0ozz44XA
Have you ever been around a seventy year old woman who has just eaten twelve pounds of cheese? I’d say “vicious” is an understatement.
If dove – and his naysayers – would stop with their vile hatred, I could show you hundreds of videos.
South America has 25 Million PLUS Arabs, almost all assimilated now, and Christian, but a lot arrived as Muslims.
Unlike the Arabs who will not naturalize Palestinians, the South Americans would. South Americans would embrace Palestinians.
There is a welcoming community in Honduras, Chile, Argentina, and Brazil.
There cultural influence is everywhere. Even German-Argentines do the Dabke now.
In Latin America they would assimilate. They already have.
FROM CHILE – ARAB TV – They have their own TV Channel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAK7uUM12Io
Website: http://arabtv.cl/
ARAB LANGUAGE CLASSES IN CHILE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY0W7Trqi30
From Argentina – 3.5 Million Arabs in Argentina
DESDE EL AJIBE = was on Buenos Aires TV for 8 years 2004-2012
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9vhd2HsFPc
ARAB LESSONS in ARGENTINA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBZMWSK-RwY
ARAB CULTURAL SOCIEY IN A SUBURB OF BUENOS AIRES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MrjwcqRamA
BUENOS AIRES DANCE SCHOOL – ARAB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezM3TE-Kceo
ARAB ORCHESTRA OF ARGENTINA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdmWBcAdg_c
DABKE CLUB OF CHILE
THERE ARE SO MANY ARABS IN BUENOS AIRES THAT DURING THE 200th ANNIVERSARY OF INDEPENDENCE THEY HAD AN INDEPENDENCE DABKE. MANY OF THE DANCERS ARE NOT ARABS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6f0WdraHbHE –
There are fair skinned blondes in the group, probably German-Argentine
The band playing the tune: Otto Noah, Augusto Gavilán, Daniel Frias, Emmanuel Pola – three of those names are NOT Arab.
Arabs are well accepted in South America.
I am not crazy for recommending that they be paid to relocate to South America.
ARAB DANCE CLASS IN URUGUAY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28hYfhDJMFg
VENEZUELA BELLY DANCE CLASS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJeA6PJZSsE
ARAB ROOTS TV – CHILE
https://youtu.be/e7MdWDxoDaM
Look at the names of the dancer. Lots of Latin/Italian wannbe Palestinians
ARAB DANCE SCHOOLS ARE EVERYWHERE – None Arabs send their daughters to learn Arab Dance
https://youtu.be/e7MdWDxoDaM
LITTLE GIRLS ARE TAUGHT ARAB DANCE AND PUT ON TV – Chile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48Ms5khKzlM
MAJOR LEAGUESOCCER TEAMS CALLED PALESTINOS – Santiago Chile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hh-_gRpGJ28
CLUB FIGHT SONG
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv1E9O4PhO4
SHORT DOCUMENTARY ON THE CLUB
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70Fb197n5cU
NOTICE THE FANS – Some wave Hamas flags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wv61i1PhtM
They support their Muslim brothers. – One of the biggest professional soccer clubs in Chile.
SOUTH AMERICA IS THE PLACE TO SEND THE PALESTINIANS.
The club was started in 1920
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzKHdj64F9c
The Palestinians in Ramallah even follow the Chilean Club
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evuIbzFUAFY
ARGENTINA FLAVOR – ARABS in Misiones Province
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkVIPrwfj9s&feature=youtu.be
MAJOR MAJOR FAST FOOD CHAIN IN CHILE IS CALLED HABIBS, specializing in Arab food
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XetzDzqBWtg
TABULI in BRAZIL’S OWN FAST FOOD CHAIN – HABIB’s – 300 restaurants
http://institucional.habibs.com.br/produtos/36/pratos-arabes/prato-verao
BIBSFIHA
http://institucional.habibs.com.br/produtos/11/salgados/bibsfiha-de-espinafre
BRAZILIANS LOVE KIBBE, an ARAB DISH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBCbcPyZPA0
NOT SURE OF THE COUNTRY – BUT LATINS LOVE ARABS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp-DmbjJlLc
FROM ARGENTINA – WHAT BETTER WAY TO CELEBRATE A NEW TV STATION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WSVWIjZNTY
FLASH MOB IN CHILE DOING ARAB DANCE – NOT ALL THE GIRLS ARE ARABS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfCiWUSPbC8
Celebrating International Day of Arabic Dance
There is nothing like this in the USA or Canada.
The Arabs are so mainstream and elite in South America, they have greatly modified the culture, even as Jews have influenced American culture.
There is a reason I suggest South America.
As a kid, the International Star from Colombia, SHAKIRA, started off doing Arabic Dance and singing in Arabic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCA0DQjp5sM
South America is the answer, and it would be cheaper to set them up in South America.
Most were convicted of petty crimes. Stealing food. Basically, poor pickpockets from London Slums, a few Irish rebels, and the poor.
Chicago and Australia would require too much money for settlement. Instead, as I have told you, South America would be cheaper. $50-$100K per adult would set them up for life – make them willing to go, and South America willing to take them.
Look at these videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsNdIl5z05E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzyi1My2snY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8KFx9HyWcg
Mostly Christian, but not all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nq4Ngwnxg38
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3p-gK64r7Q
https://wpchile.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/1506692_590834760970843_723964991_n.jpg
https://abdotounsi.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/los-rabes-de-chile.png?w=369&h=480
I have not made this stuff up.
I have researched all of it.
800,000 Palestinians in Chile, and they are now elites, nost, BUT NOT ALL, are Christian. However, they claim to love their Muslim brothers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIF0BDev7i4
THEY LOVE THEIR MUSLIM BROTHERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4FNYK9QzoA
PALESTINIAN-CHILEANS REALLY LOVE THEIR MUSLIM BROTHERS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwuR47geZgE
They have very large and rich societies,.
VERY IMPORTANT QUOTE
Argentina has 5 x as many Arabs as Chile. And Brazil has 4 x as many Arabs as Argentina.
Almost all are Christian TODAY, but they did NOT all arrive as Christians.
I know what I am talking about.
Yet the successive IL Gvts refuse to make the legal case of the ownership of J & S!
The Two State Solution
Israel evacuated Gaza in 2005 and turned 10,000 of their own people into refugees inside their own country in the belief that this would please the Arabs.
Instead, since then, the Arabs in Gaza have launched literally tens of thousands of rockets into Jewish neighborhoods. And now the TSS says Israel must turn over Judea and Samaria as well to these same people.
Obama, Sherman, Kerry & Co and much of the media tell Israelis that they should inhumanly not learn from the experience of leaving Gaza. Obama tells Netanyahu he must evict hundreds of thousands from their homes and turn all the roads, supermarkets, gas stations, power lines, cell phone towers built and paid for by Israel, and hundreds of synagogues destined to be turned in mosques, over to the Arabs. This is the Orwellian “Two-State Solution” in practice.
For Israel, it is no solution. It is a death sentence.
@ CuriousAmerican:
They were not HIS claims – These were claims made by others using his name. It is just a matter of time. I can and WILL PROVE what I say is true!
No one? Get real. The church is full of pompous, self righteous replacement theologists.
You wish. Now look at who is being sarcastic and cocky.
Australia was founded by vicious criminals, so it would be a natural habitat for the Palestinians. Maybe the Aussies are willing to be bribed to take the Palis, but given Australia’s recent demand that immigrants must assimilate, the cost of persuading them to absorb Hamas and Fatah will be prohibitive. How much should we be willing to pay per head?
A more cost effective method would be to airlift the Palis to the south side of Chicago, where the local customs are remarkably similar to their own.
If you understood Him, you would accept Him and His claims.
No one is saying the Church is just.
Yes, the Pope paid 700,000 Muslims to move into Palestine in 1870 just to screw up Herzl’s dreams. Are you insane?
Exactly!
IF YOU WILL IT, IT IS NO DREAM!
I would build the website for the NGO, provided the NGO is registed in America. US Law requires that.
I am a very good Website builder.
Shomron and Yehuda are yours only if you manage to keep it. The nature of the territorial imperative is that it applies equally to microbes, snails, felines, homo sapiens, and nations. Which means you have territory only to the extent that you can take it from a competing species, gang, or nation, and you can keep that territory only for as long as you can keep others from doing the same thing to you.
Yes, I know it was promised to us in Tora. But in fact, the Jewish nation got it back because our people fought and killed for it.
And that’s the way it will be, forever. So get used to the realities of HaOlam HaZeh. Come the Mashiach, maybe it will change. But we have been waiting a really long time for the Mashiach, haven’t we? Maybe, just maybe, we will come to understand that the real Mashiach could prove to be a great general of Zahal, commanding a high-quality tank army. Sort of like a permanent Yisrael Tal overrunning the Egyptian armies, endlessly and forever.
Either that, or you lose Eretz-Yisrael yet again.
Arnold Harris
Mount Horeb WI
@ CuriousAmerican:
@ CuriousAmerican:
I am in favor conducting real world experiments in East Jerusalem and small Arab villages in Area C to see if voluntary relocation by Arabs to elsewhere would work.
However, that said there is no real movement underway for that. Also now with the Arab world in complete turmoil and the amount of people displaced there is even more competition for people moving.
That said Shermans argument (and also yours I believe) is that people who have some money would be welcome elsewhere. 25% of the Arabs in Judah/Samaria want to move and 50% of the Gazans in the most recent poll.
The obstacles are enormous and no one who is a politician in Israel has taken this under his wings. Also their is no NGO that has been formed to with this as a purpose. So for now this is only a very hypothetical discussion point.
Always a voice of reason == end/sarcasm>
Since you hate the Church so much, if the Europeans were so bad, if the Christians were so horrible, if they were so far worse than the Arabs, if the Muslim world treated the Jews SOOOO MUCH BETTER, why is it that 9 out of 10 Jews settled in the Christian world?
BTW: The church did not create the Palestinian issue. I know you would like to blame them, but they did not.
What I am saying is:
Since Israel will not offer them borders to Jordan:
(Note: This is not a criticism)
A) Israel is not offering them true independence
B) Hence the two state solution is a facade
C) So compensated relocation is all that is left.
I think C is the best choice.
BTW: San Marino does have the right to have an independent airport, which Israel would never allow the PA, so the comparison is moot.
I understand why Israel will not give the PA a state, so I am not criticizing the lack of a two state solution.
What I am criticizing is that SINCE ISRAEL WILL NOT GIVE THEM A STATE, Israel should stop any pretense of a two-state solution, and SINCE THE PRESENT ARRANGEMENT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE, move to a third solution.
@ CuriousAmerican:If the Palestinians want peace and to live independently they could be offered something similar to San Marino in Areas A&B. Before Oslo many more Palestinians workers and businessmen did commerce (or work) in Israel than do now. If they were peaceful this would happen again, as it is mutually beneficial.
Since they only want to destroy the Jewish state we own them nothing more than we agree to do. They signed up to a demilitarized entity in Oslo but do no longer agree to this because they do not agree to live side by side with Israel as friendly neighbors. So you saying we have to offer them open borders to Jordan is meaningless because they want to destroy the Jewish State. So until they raise their children to get along with their Jewish neighbors in lieu of raising them to kill us, who cares what they want or you or others think they are reasonably entitled to.
The Jews are not going to pay one dime It will never stop! The buck stops here! The church will pay….it`s just a matter of time.
I have been recommending on Israpundit that Israel pay the Arabs to leave for years, so much so that I am slammed for repeating it. You can ask the others here. I did not state it in my present posts for fear of criticism … “Not Again. You’ve told us a million times.”
I am not an idiot.
To where, if no nation will accept them.
The only answer is compensated removal – or slow punctuated enfranchisement; but instead of biting the bullet, Israel persists in this policy, and wonders why the world notices.
There are other nations which are far worse, but unlike Israel, those other nations do not call themselves democracies.
Even had they agreed to a “Jewish state,” even Barak’s deal would not give them an open border with Jordan.
Neither side is budging on core issues.
I can understand why Israel does not want to surrender the Jordan Valley border; but the fact is that in law there is a “good faith” exception.
Now, it is true the Arabs do NOT negotiate in good faith, but simultaneously Israel does not offer a free and open border with Jordan. One cannot expect a people to agree to secondary status.
You cite Oslo, but assume it allows Israel to offer a reprehensible deal, and if the Arabs do not accept it, then the Arabs are at fault, and the status quo ante can continue. It is as if you are using Oslo to defeat the requirements of San Remo.
But leaving that aside, I do not want you to give up Judea and Samaria.
There has to be some thinking outside the box. Israel cannot continue with the present policy and expect the world to look the other way. Maybe the world should, but the world won’t.
Right now the Palestinians in Judah/Samaria still want to get rid of the Jews. This makes them enemy aliens and no country is obligated to make citizens of enemy aliens.
At the appropriate time Israel should start annexing block by block Area C to Israeli civilian law. It at the time can figure out what naturalization laws would applicable to any Arabs which willing demonstrate loyalty to the Jewish State of Israel and meet the requirements Israel sets up. All countries have laws that need to be met in order to qualify for citizenship. Israel naturally will for its own preservation need to enact a high set of standards.
@ CuriousAmerican:
You ignore Oslo. It is the constitution. It rules all. The PA and PLO agreed to those terms. They must negotiate a settlement. They want to ignore their obligations. When they entered the Oslo Agreements no one talked about the “occupation”. They were happy to get what they wanted. They can’t change the rules now.
CuriousAmerican your suggestions are absolutely idiotic.Palestinian Arabs have the right to live on Jewish land as loyal, peaceful citizens but if they choose to deny the rights of others and declare the goal to destroy the State of Israel and by choosing this, they lost the right to live on this Land. They choose genocidal war. (They proclaimed this multiple times and tried to accomplish this multiple times.) They are hoping for this now (all these are documented and well known).
The only realistic solution is a transfer the Arabs with financial compensation and forcible transfer of the families who involved in terrorism. This will be better for Jews and for Arabs. Jews have all rights to keep the Land which they possessed in defensive wars (these wars prevent genocide of Jews by Arabs). Arab countries should pay for consequences of their actions.
I agree that keeping Judea and Samaria is necessary.
However, keeping the Arabs under martial law – and they are under de facto Israeli military law with flying road checks, IDF intrustions, etc – is not sustainable.
San Remo required that …
That is the flip side of San Remo, the one no one likes to mention.
The Ottoman Empire held general elections in 1908, where the Palestinians were enfranchised in the government which ruled over them, their borders, and controlled their residencies. Palestinians had a vote to determine the parliament in Istanbul. An equivalent would be if they had the right to vote for members of the Knesset.
Today, these same Palestinians have no say in the government which controls their borders, rules over them in the final end, or which controls their residencies – Israel controls the population registry.
The flip side of asserting Jewish rights – according to San Remo – is enfranchising the Arabs.
Clearly enfranchisement was in mind and we know this because:
A) Enfranchisement of Palestinian Arabs pre-existed WWI, and San Remo, and thereby would have necessarily been part of the civil rights San Remo referred to
B) The British gave voting rights to Palestinians during the Mandate.
NO, I AM NOT SAYING THAT ISRAEL SHOULD ENFRANCHISE MILLIONS OF PALESTINIANS. THAT WOULD BE MADNESS.
But I am saying that any assertion of Israeli rights is fraught with some peril, as it comes with a concomitant requirement to grant equal rights to the Arabs.
I know many here would like to assert Israeli rights as if the Arabs do not exist, but alas they do; it is a mixed arrangement.
You know my solution. No need to repeat it.
But, the present situation cannot be maintained the way it is.
– Because the situation is not sustainable
– and because Israel does not want to change it
– the world sees fit to intervene and demand a Palestinian state
If Israel wants to prevent this, then Israel should come up with a counterproposal.
Rather than criticizing the UN, offer the UN a better option.
Since Israel does not want a two state solution – which is madness – then make a counter proposal. A real counter proposal.
The last offers would not allow the Arabs free borders with Jordan, which many thought was unacceptable.
The Arabs want something more than disenfranchised limited autonomy. Even Danes would object to such a secondary state.
So, if you reject my idea, come up with a better solution.
Offer Gaza to the French … or the Japanese … provided they enfranchised the Arabs in Gaza. Offer it to the Chinese. Tell them there is off shore oil.
That would set the UN spinning.
What Israel cannot do is keep doing what she had done and expect no criticism.
That ain’t gonna happen. Maybe the world should look the other way, but the world will not.
Netanyahu must be saved from himself and his own idiocy. Crudely stated: a Palestinian Arab state is incompatible with Israel’s existence.
Israel is not obligated to create for the Arabs what they have never accepted for themselves and also because the Arabs deny Jewish national sovereignty as a valid principle for resolving the conflict between the two sides.
Above all, there is no moral, factual, political or legal equivalence between Arab and Israeli national interests.
Its time to consign Oslo in the political graveyard, where it rightfully belongs.