By Ted Belman
Deputy Defense Minister Danny Danon makes it clear:
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The government committee weighing the “equal burden of service” issue is unfairly focusing on hareidi-religious Jews while ignoring the Israeli Arab community, Deputy Defense Minister Danny Danon (Likud) has accused.
Danon told Yisrael Hayom that he and other members of Likud and Yisrael Beytenu will not support a proposal “that deals with just one community and leaves the Arabs alone.”
“We cannot ignore a huge part of the population,” he said. “Nobody expects [Arabs] to enlist in Golani, but they can volunteer in a local health center before going to study at Haifa University.”
Danon accused Finance Minister Yair Lapid of leading the trend to focus on hareidi Jews. “Lapid’s hate for the hareidi community compared to how he ignores Israeli Arabs is sheer hypocrisy,” he said.
The Perry Committee is currently researching the issue of hareidi-religious army enlistment in the wake of the end of the Tal Law, which granted an automatic deferral of service to full-time students of Torah. The committee has been tasked with proposing a solution by the end of May.
CuriousAmerican Said:
I never claim victimization. Don’t even like the concept. I generally have little sympathy, empathy or respect for Jews who take it and cry about it. A weak Jew is a desecration of the Jewish G-d.
Any ethnic collective that wants to kill me or at best drive me from my home is whatever I feel like calling them. We are not taught that loving our enemies is a virtuous trait. We are taught though that when an enemy comes to kill us to get up earlier and kill him first. We are taught to do to our enemies what they would do to us and to never mistake an enemy for a friend.
Jews who forgot those dictum’s didn’t make it to old age. If Arab rights conflict with Jewish rights guess what? I chose Jewish rights and don’t give a damn about theirs. This is not an American sporting event, different rules different consequences.
You are not a Zionist you have eschatological beliefs that might require your support for a certain Israel under temporary Jewish rule (Baruch Haba B`shem Adonai?) but your end time vision for us smells of “Lakes of Fire.”
I never accused you of not being a Zionist, I don’t give a damn about that, although I do question your motives. I have accused you only of hating Jews and I stand by that accusation. I guess it’s because we Jews are the ones holding up your big show? 😛
I can’t speak for Ted and won’t even attempt to here. I would say I despise not hate. Hate is a non sustainable emotion and dissipates over time. Dissent? Dissent away, we love dissent if based on truth, facts and not attempts to intentionally whenever you can, to equate Jews with those the Jews claim or view as their oppressors and adversaries. How many Arabs have Israel killed since 48 including combatants in all our wars? Less than King Hussein, less that Assad papa or son etc. We do have the power and the ability to wipe the scum off the face of the earth. The Russians would in a similar situation and so would the Americans.
Don’t preach to us!!!!! The christian Nazis killed more Jews in a single day than we have Arabs in 65 years.
So anybody who does NOT agree with you you then MIS-label as anti-Semitic?!
You are the bigot, not me!
You call the Arabs vermin.
I have said no equivalent concerning Jews.
You are hurling ethnic insults, but what is most amazing is that as you insult others, you claim you are victimzed by hatred. What a sense of conceit.
By most standards, I would be considered very Zionist.
I do not ask Israel to take back the Palestinians outside Israel.
I do not ask Israel to surrender Judea and Samaria.
I do not ask Israel to divide Jerusalem.
This would label me a right wing Zionist by most standards.
But because I say you should treat the Arabs in the contested areas a bit better, suddenly I am mislabeled by you.
Truly amazing.
If I were the hater you claim I am, Mr. Belman would have banned me by now.
You seem to be the hater, not me.
Is dissent allowed on this blog? Or is it only a rooting chorus where everyone competes to see who can be the most outrageously violent in their opinion.
From what I see the chief opinions here are kill more, evict more, and slaughter them all, with only minor variations in how this is to be achieved.
CuriousAmerican Said:
I have just itemized a very incomplete list showing that the Arabs not only have equal rights they have more and preferred rights. They have the highest proportion of our population on welfare. The lowest matriculating % of students ; contribute a big MINUS to our economy and are an internal threat. They all speak Hebrew required in school and all jobs, many speak better Hebrew than most Jews here. Non Muslim Arabs tend to be better educated and more assimilated than Muslim Arabs.
Arabs are takers not contributors by nature. They are thieves and liars a cultural deformity which was a trait among Arabs long before
Islam. Building Laws and approvals even for Jews here is sometimes a never ending bureaucratic battle. Jews to preserve scarce land built vertically. Arabs prefer culturally to build horizontally without plan or direction many times without consideration for building standards and modern infrastructure which they refuse to pay for. Those land grabbing Bedouin in the South should be driven into Sinai where most of their tribes and relatives are, and where most came from. This will happen when they really push us too far. My red line passed many many years ago but we have cowards for leaders, but even cowards have limits, hopefully. Israeli citizens will be forced to take matters in their own hands if the government does not begin to seriously address these wonderful citizens. There is always somewhere a breaking point and I think we are getting close to ours.
Your faux concern for these vermin only masks your deep seeded hatred for Jews not love of Arabs. We tolerate you as a visual aid to show Jews and some others real insidious Jew hatred.
If you do not want to treat them equally, then don’t complain about them.
Do you feel the same for illegal Jewish dwellings and there are some?
Have no problem with that IF you then give them equal rights, permits, and equal housing access after they finish their three years of service.
CuriousAmerican Said:
Don’t want them in the army, in our towns cities or neighborhoods. There are no laws prohibiting them from living wherever they can if you can find stupid Jews wiling to rent or sell them property.
I would destroy every Arab home and dwelling built without a proper permit. Confiscate property for unpaid municipal back taxes, turn off water for unpaid assessments and cut electricity for unpaid bills. Induct every able bodied male Arab in Israel into work brigades and have them clean up all the trash thrown about Israel including parks and nature reserves, building roads repairing buildings and homes in disrepair in poor sections of our cities and towns. Have them available for our farmers to plant and harvest fields and orchards. For such work they will be paid what our soldiers receive plus rm board and transportation where applicable. Skys the limit to possibilities of such an available cheap source of labor.
I actually agree with this, if you do not mind giving military training to Arabs.
If you do, social work could be substituted.
In return, equal building permits must be allowed, and NO exclusions as the Mayor of Illit Nazareth tried to exclude Arabs.
Denying rentals to Arabs – as in Safed – would then be illegal.
Equal burdens, AND equal rights.
BTW: I would think Hebrew fluency would have to be insisted on as well.
But again, Equal rights and Equal burdens.
@ NormanF:
You are nuts!!!!!
The Arabs must be subjected to the military draft, with appropriate exemptions. Now that Israel is at peace with its neighbors, 20% of Israel’s population should no longer receive the benefits of Israeli citizenship with none of the responsibilities that come with it.
Any Arab who refuses to serve the country should be stripped of his Israeli citizenship and deported as an enemy alien.
If Israel doesn’t want to draft Arabs, it should abolish the draft for Jews. But if it wants to keep it, it must maintain the principle of equal treatment under the law as a paramount value.