Most Europeans feel Jews enrich their culture, new study finds, but large proportions of Poles and Hungarians believe Jews exploit Holocaust, have too much influence
By RAPHAEL AHREN, TIMES OF ISRAEL
Nearly three quarters of Polish citizens believe that the Jews seek to exploit the Holocaust. About 70 percent of Hungarians think Jews have too much influence in their country. And close to 40 percent of people in numerous European countries believe that Israel is waging “a war of extermination” against the Palestinians.
These are among the findings of a major new study on bigotry in Europe, entitled “Intolerance, Prejudice and Discrimination,” published by the German-based Friedrich Ebert Foundation. The report, set to be formally presented in two weeks’ time but made available in the week that Israel marks Holocaust Remembrance Day, surveyed 8,000 people across the continent — 1,000 in each of eight countries.
More than 30 percent of Poles strongly agree and 42 somewhat agree with the statement that “Jews try to take advantage of having been victims during the Nazi era,” the survey showed. In Hungary, 39% of responders agreed strongly and 29% somewhat agreed with that assertion.
The study also sheds light on European attitudes toward the state of Israel and how these affect Jew hatred. ”About half the respondents in Portugal, Poland and Hungary see anti-Semitic sentiments as based on Israel’s political activities, while around 40% of respondents in most participating countries affirm the drastic assessment that the Israeli state is conducting a war of extermination against the Palestinians,” the study’s authors write.
In Poland, the number of respondents who agree with the claim of an Israeli “war of extermination” is even higher, at 63%. Nearly half of the German respondents — 48% — agreed with the statement. The number was 49% in Portugal, 42% in Britain, 41% in Hungary, 39% in Holland and 38% in Italy.
Asked if Jews have too much influence, about 70% of Hungarians, 50% of Poles and 20% of Germans agreed
The Friedrich Ebert Foundation is affiliated with Germany’s main opposition Social Democratic Party. According to the Foundation, the study is the “very first to supply comprehensive and comparable data about the extent of prejudice and discrimination against the main target groups in eight selected European countries” — France, Germany, Great Britain, Hungary, Italy, the Netherlands, Poland and Portugal.
In the Netherlands, for instance, fewer than 18% of respondents said Jews were trying to take advantage of their people’s suffering during the Shoah, while more than 40% strongly disagreed with that statement. However, nearly half of the German responders agreed with it (23% of them strongly and 26%) while less than 20% “strongly disagreed.”
Asked if Jews have too much influence in their country, about 70% of Hungarians, 50% of Poles and 20% of Germans agreed. In the Netherlands – whose current foreign minister, Uri Rosenthal, is Jewish – 3.4% strongly agreed and 18 percent somewhat agreed.
Thirty percent of German and 22% of British respondents agreed with the statement that “Jews in general do not care about anything or anyone but their own kind.” In Portugal, that number is even higher, at about 55%, according to the report.
However, a majority in all surveyed countries agrees with the statement that Jews are an “enrichment” for their culture.
“Anti-Semitism has a long and uniquely terrible history in Europe,” the study’s authors, Andreas Zick, Beate Kuepper, Andreas Hövermann, write. “The German surveys that we have been conducting at regular intervals since 2002, as well as studies in other European countries that have a different history of anti-Semitism, demonstrate that anti-Semitism is an important component of group-focused enmity. It is particularly conspicuous in the eastern European countries.”
The 190-page study also examines other phenomena of what the researchers call group-focused enmity, such as old-fashioned racism, sexism, homophobia, anti-Muslim and anti-immigrant sentiments. The findings generally reveal that group-focused enmity is “widespread” in Europe, being weakest in the Netherlands and strongest in Poland and Hungary. About half of all European respondents, for instance, consider Islam a “religion of intolerance” and believe there are too many immigrants in their country. More than half of French respondents said that Muslims are “too demanding.”
While the different prejudices measured by the study are very different in nature and seem to have no influence on one another, they are indeed interconnected, the researchers write. “Those who denigrate one group are very likely to target other groups too,” they write.
The results of the study will be presented and discussed at Tel Aviv’s Beit Sokolov on May 1. The prime minister of the German state of Brandenburg, Matthias Platzeck, is scheduled to deliver the keynote speech at the event, entitled “Racism and anti-Semitism on the rise again? Anti-democratic tendencies in today’s multicultural Europe.”
This Wednesday, on the eve of Holocaust Remembrance Day, the Moshe Kantor program for the Study of Contemporary Antisemitism and Racism at Tel Aviv University and European Jewish Congress will present its findings regarding the state of global anti-Semitism worldwide in 2010.
@ Tony Jacobs:
Justice means Justice first and foremost in a Jewish society as it relates to Jews.
Avot 1:18
Pirke Avot 1:18 Rabban Shimon ben Gamliel says: The world endures on three things -justice, truth, and peace.
As it is said: Execute the judgement of truth and peace in your gates – the Talmud Yerushalmi says (Ta’an. 9:2): “These three are one, for when justice is enforced, truth and peace prevail; and all three are found in one verse: ‘Execute the judgement of truth and peace in your gates.'” Some commentators read this verse: “If you establish justice and peace you will deserve to dwell within your gates,” as the Torah promised (Deut. 16:20): “Justice, justice shall you pursue, so that you may live and inherit the land.”
Rashi adds that the appointment of righteous judges gives life to Israel and enables them to possess the land (Mikhtav Eliyahu).
Parshat Shoftim,
yamit82 Said:
Justice isn’t a Jewish value? Justice, justice shall thou pursue – sure I read that in shul one Saturday. Don’t bother to justify your nazism to me, just reply to the others on here, they probably agree with you.
CuriousAmerican Said:
@ Tony Jacobs:
@ tony
Tony I was about to close the en thread when I saw that in spite of your request to me not to reply to you (btw, I am not yamit, but from the short time that I have come to comment on this blog, I do share his views and have learnt from his comments. The same goes for Arnold Harris…. Just thought to correct some misconceptions you have).
I am glad though that you chose to reply as I think it is important to learn the truth and be open to admit holding to a faulty premise….
Let us begin.
FYI, I am a secular Jew, wholeheartedly Zionist, and view the bible as my *history* and not necessarily as something holier than that. I treasure it because it outlines my roots. And like you, having lived in Israel, I can relate to each and every biblical story and feel a belonging.
So I view Israel as my home, from which my ancestors have been evicted and thrown out . The only thing that they had was the ‘deed’ to this house which they were reciting every year at Passover. Since 70 CE, no foreign nation gave a damn about this deed. To the contrary! Through a new religion formed and spread throughout Europe,the Jew was vilified, beaten robbed and killed with impunity (and with the sanction of the ‘holy church’)….but now, the Jew has come home only to find it dilapidated and squatters, living in his land.
In spite of that, the Jew has PAID the squatters to leave his home and he now , rightly claims, the entire land of Israel as his.
So, for some people , this is reason enough to claim what is rightfully yours.
Of course, others will differ and say this ‘deed’ none sense is just that! Nonesense!
Ok, to these people the answer is very simple: possession = 9/10 of the law…
We liberated these lands from the squatters (granted, others would say, ‘ we occupy’ , to which I would say let’s not argue about semantics…. We are here to stay whether you like it or not…)
Some how I think you would agree with me so far.
Reality check!
It is getting a little late in my neck of the woods and if you reply, I will follow up with part 2 (kahane, dr goldstein, fascists etc), which in fact started our whole little exchange…..
Cheers!
🙂
There are the Nazi actions before 1939, when Hitler preferrred explusion; and after 1942, at the Wannsee conference, when Hitler went into mass extermination mode.
You have to be specific.
Certainly, there are some get ugly, such as in Hebron
http://attendingtheworld.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/gas-the-arabs.jpg
But I do not want to classify anybody here with that viewpoint. Though some certainly appear to have it.
But one has to be fair, it is a viewpoint probably more common among the Arabs than the Jews.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxErvEzfoO0
In any event, you cannot make a comparison to the Nazis after 1942.
Are you a Christian or Buddhist?
What’s your Jewish source for that statement Tony?
Whenever someone ascribes beliefs to Judaism it’s customary to include your Jewish sources. Otherwise anyone can ascribe anything to Judaism, and they usually do? Capish?
The Phoenix, you said:
“Tony, I DO see the madness as you call it. However, I want to assure you that it is a COLD madness, And NOT spoken as a raving lunatic (you might disagree on this one but it’s ok).
You see tony, your beliefs say that “children were murdered at prayer”. Well. I will not even bother to point out and ask what about the hundreds and thousands of JEWISH children savagely murdered by musloids of varied garden variety, but nonetheless sharing the same beliefs as prescribed in the kkkoran and hadiths.
These ‘children’ at prayer are the future jihadis (for THIS is the essence of their prayers, tony), and, believe me , there is no such thing as a ‘cute little scorpion’ when you are a frog. This IS a zero sum game, tony. Not hysterically, just matter of factedly. It is very very simple. It is US or them. And since I wish for the ‘US’ to be the one leaving this arena, and NOT them, I believe that the ONLY way to ensure peace for US is to have MORE Baruch Goldsteins. And acting in unison NOT as lone wolves that just plain could not take it anymore….No! A welll organized campaign (a la unit 101 with Meir har-tzion and Sharon, when he was normal…)”
And you can’t see the Nazi parallel in your final solution to the Arab problem. As I say to the Jehadis, if your religious beliefs compel you to kill children, then they are not holy, they are satanic.
A fundamental tenet of justice and therefore Judaism; Two wrongs don’t make a right.
@ Tony Jacobs:
Tony, I DO see the madness as you call it. However, I want to assure you that it is a COLD madness, And NOT spoken as a raving lunatic (you might disagree on this one 🙂 but it’s ok).
You see tony, your beliefs say that “children were murdered at prayer”. Well. I will not even bother to point out and ask what about the hundreds and thousands of JEWISH children savagely murdered by musloids of varied garden variety, but nonetheless sharing the same beliefs as prescribed in the kkkoran and hadiths.
These ‘children’ at prayer are the future jihadis (for THIS is the essence of their prayers, tony), and, believe me , there is no such thing as a ‘cute little scorpion’ when you are a frog. This IS a zero sum game, tony. Not hysterically, just matter of factedly. It is very very simple. It is US or them. And since I wish for the ‘US’ to be the one leaving this arena, and NOT them, I believe that the ONLY way to ensure peace for US is to have MORE Baruch Goldsteins. And acting in unison NOT as lone wolves that just plain could not take it anymore….No! A welll organized campaign (a la unit 101 with Meir har-tzion and Sharon, when he was normal…)
@ yamit82:
No, you said it first, I just quoted you.
“Whoever understands………Understands”
@ Tony Jacobs:
You already said that. What else you got, Barbie?
@ yamit82:
“Whoever understands………Understands”
@ Tony Jacobs:
Let’s recapitulate: You accuse me of making scumbag fascist remarks. Then you declare that anyone who is a kahanist is not or cannot be a decent human being. I understand!!!
First of all I resent being called scumbag, fascist and subhuman. Secondly when you throw those words around so loosely you should first define those terms. There is a definition of fascism which is: The merger of corporate and government powers is fascism or by another name corporatism. Gee, the last time I looked That’s AMERICA TODAY!!!!
Now I don’t know how much you know or don’t about R, Kahane H”YD, but I can tell you that whatever else you may think he was a Jewish Patriot and even a free marketeer. He valued Jews over non Jews and Judaism over everything else.
I’ll not contest your use of the pejorative term “scumbag” Your entitled to that opinion Barbie. But may I suggest what you can do with that swelled head of yours: See Here?
@ the phoenix:
Yes, it’s sad that you’re so mad that you can’t see your madness.
Here is a good test of ones sanity. If your beliefs need you to rationalise the murder of children at prayer, then your beliefs are insane.
No ifs and buts about it.
My comment above should have shown the quote from tony Jacobs to yamit (first two lines) . The following six lines are my comment TO tony jacobs.
Tony Jacobs Said:
THIS IS A RECENT VIDEO WORTH WATCHING (posted April 4, 2012)
Leftists & Muslims – Rise of Antisemitism “Hatred of Israel is a principle of the left”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4eEUXJLIPg
“… in large part Israel lost the media war in Europe long ago, and now the Jews are paying for it.”
– closing comment of the video
@ yamit82:
Yes, it was BlandOatmeal that said it, not you. But it is the sort of scumbag facist remark you’d make. You’re either a decent human being or a kahanist. “Whoever understands………Understands”
This may sound odd, but I really do not buy the theory that Europeans are doing this to hid their own guilt about the Holocaust.
Spain, Portugal, Britain, Ireland, Denmark did not have concentration camps. Italians, though in the Axis, often protected Jews from the Germans. Certainly, Denmark did.
Serbians fought the Nazis viciously.
The Poles, believe it or not, did violently resist the Nazis. 3 Million Polish Christians died in the Holocaust. They may not have loved the Jews, but they hated the Germans.
Europeans probably do NOT feel as guilty about the Holocaust as many think. Some do, but many do not.
European anti-Semitism stems from Catholicism and Lutheranism. It is now cultural.
Some of this is just nationalism. Just as Israel wants to be majority Jewish – Michael Oren says 70% is the minimum acceptable – Europeans want to be majority Poles, Germans, British, Irish, etc.
And to a certain extent you cannot blame them.
Part of this nationalism may fuel the feeling that Jews have too much influence in their country.
How many here feel Arabs have too much influence in Israel?
It is the same nationalism.
The problem begins when this nationalism becomes exaggerated and irrational, which is common in European history.
I do concede that part of this is driven by a “permisssion” given to be socially acceptably anti-Jewish; but I would not blame all of it on anti-semitism, though it is part of the problem among some. A lot of it is irrationality.
The same Europeans who are accused of holding anti-semitic attitudes also
So, this is not as clearly anti-semitic as it is irrational.
The most amazing thing is that they can hate the Muslim influence while damning Israel.
Given the Irish penchant for booze, I would think Islam should be radically hateful to a nation of whiskey drinkers.
IRISH MORALS CONFLICT WITH ISLAM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yPIC-o1O3k
Again, Europeans are irrational.
And I stand by my characterization of you being arrogant.
I apologize then. The way it was written, it looked like he was quoting you.
Paul Klein:
You are misreading. The ones who deserve what the Muslims will dish out are the Europeans who believe all those things about the Jews. Since they seem to not be aware of all the Christians being killed by the MUSLIMS, they will deserve what they get. I hope this is all clear now.
CuriousAmerican Said:
If one looks at this issue linguistically, we can see why the Irish would support the Arabs against the Jews. Ireland is the Land of Ire, ire meaning anger or rage. The Gaza Strip is home to Hamas, an Arabic word which sounds exactly the same as the Hebrew word for violence/robbery/rage. Therefore, due to the kiss-ass efforts of Israel’s traitorous leadership, Gaza is “Ire Land”. Birds of a feather flock together.
The euros have an extremely warped perspective on the Middle East. Any rational person would know it is the Arab-muslims who are waging a war of extermination against Israel. They have been attempting to accomplish this since Israel was born, through multiple wars waged by Arab states or by proxy terrorist wars using the fakestinians.
Or perhaps the euros are projecting their own history of exterminating the Jews onto the modern day Jewish state.
Do the Europeans ever hear about moslem human rights violations all over the world, especially persecutions of Christians; or is that just “islamophobia” or a misunderstanding of islime” I, myself, am ISLAMOLOATHIC!
and who or what is this miriam 1…does she want us dead,or am i mis-reading?
yes yamit…there is a paul klein…and i said what i said notwithstanding the central importance of the eretz…but we must have some semblance of a galut after all where would we be if not for the babylonian talmud,or the richness of exegesis of such as rambam.ramban rashi….etc…….ad infinitem if they had not experieced the world through the comopolitan`s eyes….that was my intent …furthermore i aqppreciate your views on world affars because yo0u to are a cosmopolite love pk
AnObserver Said:
And they’ll deserve what they get!
@ AnObserver:
Whatever the Muslims devise for them, they’ll richly deserve!
@ Tony Jacobs:
I see I have a two for one!!
Ditto what I said to CA.
Now I laid out my argument with respect to WC and can supply you if you like with tons of evidence to support me. You believe that calling me a supporter of Goldstien is a put down but you are mistaken here too. I consider it a badge of honor. I just wish he had done the deed attributed to him. Whoever understands …Understands.
@ CuriousAmerican:
You may argue with my descriptions of you but before that LEARN TO READ FIRST!!!
What you attributed to me in # 7 was said 100% by Blandoatmeal not me. I never indicated whether I agree or disagree with his comments either.
I really don’t mind criticism of what I say and write but I do resent criticism of me when the attribution to me is an-others and not mine.
So I stand by my characterization of you being Stupid.
CuriousAmerican Said:
CA, you are once again right and wrong at the same time!
You’re right in what you say and totally rational, but wrong to argue with Yamit82. A man who idolises Baruch Goldstien, but thinks Churchill was an anti-semite is not worth the time.
@ CuriousAmerican:
CA, you’re right and wrong at the same time. What you write about Europeans is just as true of Americans. From what I can tell, the only thing that differentiates Obahma from european politicians, is that he needs Jewish money to finance his election campaign.
Finally look at this comparison.
Los Angeles 2009 – During Occupation Cast Lead
Wonderful weather, lots of Arabs in LA area, but a small crowd
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRTpa4giqxE
Madrid 2009 – During Occupation Cast Lead
Freezing weather – tens of thousands show up – I do not believe the 250,000 number
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u8Luw85r2pc
Despite Europe’s claims to rationality, their politics, even the British, are totally irrational.
The only rational ones in Spain are the ones who fear another Muslim invasion.
THE CREEPING ISLAMIZATION OF SPAIN
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fys0MxVXGiQ
Finally, why would Russia support Arabs over Israel.
This is Moscow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwJM6NERrh8
This image says it all
http://eccechristianus.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/hemos-vuelto.jpg
(Translates: We have returned)
EUROPE IS INSANE
To see the irrationality of the European response to Palestine, look at the Irish.
Solidarity with Palestine March, Dublin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFFVIT9Y9Bk
Look at this comparison
Most of Irish (Jewish) history took place in Ulster (Judea and Samaria)
Ulster (Judea and Samaria) is the heartland of Ireland (Israel).
About 1000 years ago Ireland (Israel) was invaded by imperialist British (Arabs) who
would plant British (Arab) colonists in Ulster (Judea and Samaria).
Britain divided Ireland (Israel) to satisfy violent British (Arab) colonists.
The Irish (Jews) want their heartland Ulster (Judea and Samaria) back.
Historically Ulster (Judea and Samaria) was Irish (Jewish) until imperialist
British (Arabs) colonized the area.
But some violent British (Arabs) are preventing the reunification of Ireland (Israel).
IF THERE IS ANY ETHNIC GROUP IN EUROPE WHICH SHOULD BE PRO-JEWISH IT IS THE IRISH.
But they have bought the romantic lie that the Israel Palestinian struggle is a colonial struggle.
Ytzhak Shamir’s code name was Michel, after Michael Collins of the IRA.
The IRA even helped the Jews in their fight against the British.
So why would the Irish today support the Arab … why does the IRA help the Arab?
INSANITY! European politics are NOT rational.
Because of this, Europe is unstable and Jews should leave an insane Europe
When you said this:
When you said that, you justified Arab colonialism of Israel as well.
You, not me.
That is a lie.
What I object to is that you base your claim to the contested areas on military strength.
That is arrogance.
Israel has a right to the land; but if military strength is your justification, then you are on shaky ground.
You seem to declare anyone who does not agree with your arrogance to be anti-semitic.
Some more videos to prove my point
Concentració Plaza Sant Jaume, Barcelona Per Gaza 4/1/2008 -1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MdVUDctBOc
Forget the language. Look at the crowd.
More than half the crowd is white.
1) Spain’s history is one of fighting the Moor.
2) Barcelona resisted Franco. It was Franco, NOT the Republic which used Moorish troops.
3) Catalonia/Barcelona wants Independence from Spain. They are/were radical leftists.
These people have NO REASON AT ALL TO SUPPORT THE BACKWARD PALESTINIANS.
Why are they doing this?
Again, Romanticism! Europeans are driven by mythology more than Reason.
Jews should start to flee.
As much as we complain about Obama, American leftists cannot hold a candle
to the irrationality of European leftists.
@ CuriousAmerican:
When and where have I EVER said that?
Your pathological Jew hatred and STUPIDITY do not Amaze me. By now I concede it as a GIVEN!
Besides you being Stupid to which I have no control, you are beneath my contempt.
A distinction without a difference; The two are not mutually exclusive.
European Politics is grounded in mythology.
It is rooted in European Romanticism.
It is not rational like American politics.
The recent victory of George Galloway, a Catholic cum Muslim?! is typical
These are some clips of a man who claims to be Catholic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rv7aJHtsATg
Europeans appeal to emotion, to history, to ancient class warfare.
Obama is mild compared to European irrationality.
When you step out of the American orbit of news reporting, and if you
know history, you will see this.
The class warfare in Glasgow, Scotland is a continuation of the Gaelic clans
vs the Saxon overlords.
Only the labels have changed.
So they embrace the Palestinian caused based on emotion NOT rationality.
I will show videos in another thread.
But the difference between the American Revolution and the French Revolution is critical.
The American Revolution was based on reason and remained grounded in Christianity and reason.
The French Revolution started out with reason but devolved to Romanticism.
With the latter case, democracy will devolve to tyranny inevitably.
This is why they embrace Palestine.
Forget Europe:
Once you leave the USA, it gets ugly, very fast.
Videos of anti-Israel marches during 2009 Operation Cast Lead.
Trans: 5000 PEOPLE IN SEVILLE AGAINST MASSACRE IN GAZA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RGQHIAVQCY
Notice that the vast majority of these people are European whites.
Second video (again Seville 2009)
Trans: STOP THE PALESTINIAN GENOCIDE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmD1rzpzjrc
Notice again: Most are Europeans, NOT Arabs.
Notice the Communist flags.
Notice the Ugly slogans … translated THIS IS NOT WAR … THIS IS EXTERMINATION
Another sign mentions GENOCIDE
So what is going on? This is leftist lunacy writ large.
This is class warfare. Not like American class warfare which is rooted
in changing economics and peters out with prosperity. Euro class warfare
goes back to medieval peasant uprisings against the nobility. This is generational.
Socialists vs Fascists because my great-grandfather was a (fill in class here)
The left has attached itself to the Arab cause.
This stuff is much scarier than anything you will see on English language video.
When the Euro-right attaches itself also to the Arab cause, the end is near.
This is foreign to American political thought. This is European romanticism.
It masquerades as intellectual but is really emotional.
American politics are basic, backroom dirty deals, without too much emotion.
European politics are grounded in emotionalism.
@ BlandOatmeal:
Europe is lost to reason.
I do not know how many here speak a language other than English.
(Hebrew would not count for the purposes of this discussion)
But once you leave the Anglophonic world, anti-semitism become amazingly common.
My Spanish is mediocre, but what I can read is scary.
SEVILLE PROTEST – 2009
(See video below)
Signs read “THIS IS NOT A WAR! IT IS AN EXTERMINATION”
There are references to Genocide. Another signs says: “ENOUGH ALREADY, ZIONIST ASSASSINS”
The video is called STOP THE PALESTINIAN GENOCIDE (In Spanish of course)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmD1rzpzjrc
But notice all the European Communists among the group.
At least half the group is European Communist. Notice the sickle and hammer.
You would never see this in America outside of the Communist West Side of Manhattan.
Socialist and Communist Parties thrive in Europe.
Class Warfare is generational and goes back to the days of serfdom; the peasants vs. the nobility.
5000 People in Seville against the Massacre in Gaza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RGQHIAVQCY
@ BlandOatmeal:
So let me get you right, Yamit, you are not upset that Rome colonized Judea.
Sometimes your arrogance amazes even me.
And if the Arabs re-colonize Israel, will you consider it a “natural way of growth?”
For a man who claims to honor God, you seem to place your confidence in a fleeting military superiority.
@ yamit82:
Yamit,
I’m glad there’s something we agree on, 100%. Our reasons may be different. I’m not against one country colonizing another — as the British did in America, the Chinese did in Manchuria, the Vietnamese did in S. Vietnam, the Germans did in E. Germany, the Spanish did in most of their country, the Arabs did in North Africa, the Turks did in Anatolia, etc. This is the natural way of growth for all countries. The Jews did not colonize Poland and the Ukraine, though, nor Brooklyn and Long Island — they went in humiliation, to become a recalcitrant minority. That is not fitting for God’s people. It dishonors God. Paul Klein may be one of those many atheist Jews, and this may not matter to him. He is living in a dream world: If it weren’t for God’s hand of protection on the Jews, to keep them for their eventual return to where they rightfully belong, they would have been eliminated long ago everywhere they had gone; and Paul Klein, if he existed, would be anything but a Jew boasting about “Jewish rights to live here and there”.
Juden nach Palestina! The Nazis had that right. If it weren’t for the British, that’s where the Jews would have gone, and there wouldn’t have been a Shoah. The antisemites, in their own strange way, are God’s servants.
@ paul klein:
I agree–the Jews belongs wherever they choose to live–but Israel is their rightful homeland!
@ paul klein:
What does anyone expect? The Jews never belonged n Europe. They belong in Israel.
Wish I had a $ buck for every Jew who said or thought that in history and were proved wrong. In our time; Jewish communities that trace themselves back to biblical times have been liquidated. Jewish communities in Spain, Germany, Russia and Poland that go back over a thousand years have been liquidated. Any Jew who knows anything about Jewish history knows there is no such thing as permanence as a Jew. Total assimilation might save you personally but not as a Jew. If the cossacks (modern version) don’t get you assimilation will. A Jew as a Jew has no future in the exile.
b.o. you`re full of b.s….the jew belongs wherever he is living…..pk
I say give the people what they want. The soon to be bankrupt Eurothings would like to see that so this will justify their hatred of anything not European.
Spanish bonds are very close to 7%.This is the danger point.
50% of Spanish youth are unemployed.
Who gives a damn what the Europeans think. Le them enjoy their muslim arab guests.
The Europeans are just jealous because the vast majority of Europe’s Jews died horribly during the Holocaust. If they want to feel equal to the Jews, perhaps the European Christians (or pagans or atheists) can die horribly in the hundreds of millions. I’m sure their Muslim friends would be more than happy to assist them go to their final reward, if not today then tomorrow.
What does anyone expect? The Jews never belonged n Europe. They belong in Israel.