By Ted Belman
The Quartet is to meet four days from now with the intention of arbitrating the conflict. It wants to hold meetings with both the GOI and the PA separately.
Tomorrow the Israel’s Inner Cabinet is to meet and to decide whether to participate.
Netanyahu wary of new international efforts in peace process because he appreciates participation could lead to a Quartet peace plan which he wants to avoid.
Rational thinking as you understand it will be the death of us. Everything about Jews and Israel is totally irrational. Our very existence is historically irrational.
Rational?
The G-d of History, the G-d of the Jewish people, called the world into being for one reason only and that was for the sake of the Jewish people and the Torah of Israel. All that occurs, all the eruptions of wars and catastrophes, the rise and fall of empires, have no meaning except that they affect the fortunes or misfortunes of the Jewish people. The Jewish nation is indeed, the heart of the world and there is no reason for the existence of empires, kings, rulers, masses or systems aside from their reaction to the Jewish people. This is the meaning of the Destiny of the Jew and that destiny is a guaranteed one.
There is a guarantee, a solemn oath, a surety, a divine bond that the Jewish people cannot be ever destroyed but rather that they and their G-d will emerge in days to come triumphant over the evils and the foolishness of all other nations. Zion will and must emerge as the mount to which all peoples will turn and the Jewish L-rd will be the One before Whom all knees bend. Jerusalem must be rebuilt as the throne of the world and the Exile must end with all Jews returning in glory and majesty to their land and a peace based upon acceptance of the kingship of the L-rd.
That final day will come and the beginning of the final era is upon us. The one who doubts this is not a scoffer; he is blind. The rise of the Jewish State from the ashes and dungheap of history; the return of the people scattered and ground into the dust; the reemergence of a language, consigned to the libraries and antiquities of the Vatican and the House of Study; the stranger-than-fiction, miraculous victories over overwhelming enemies thirsting for bloody destruction and holocaust – these are the first steps into the final chapter of Jewish triumph and Heavenly kingdom.
the big question is :
is Israel ruled by the natural laws?
BB thinks that Israel is not elected, i.e. that Israel is as bounded to natual laws as any other nation. Ben Gurion was wiser and said: in Israel if you want to be realistic you have to believe in wonders.
G-d has brought the whole actual situation on us in order to teach us that if we surrender to the logics of natural law then we are lost and that our only realistic option is to lift us above the logics of the nations since we are essentially different from the nations. we Jews are strangers in this world and we are above the laws of this world. our whole history proofs this. but we are afraid of assuming our responsability which go with our particularity. but ther’s no choice: G-d has decided to force us to be particular and above the world. if we assume this immediately we shall win without the smallest pain. if we refuse our particularity we shall win, too, but shall pay a hard price. anyway BB will be remembered as a weak unworthy leader, a liar and a traitor. G-d will punish him measure-for-measure: He will put upon him the laws of the nations!
I have no raw nerves and if I did you couldn’t reach them. You are wrong about me not standing for anything. I stand against everything you and your kind stand for.
Should I search the archives for your last comments before you left us last year? I can and I will if you want to push it.
I struck a raw nerve, didn’t I, Yam. You stand for nothing, and against everything.
Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch
“A democracy is nothing more than mob rule, where fifty-one percent of the people may take away the rights of the other forty-nine.”
–Thomas Jefferson
Democracy Versus Liberty
It is truly disgusting for me to hear politicians, national and international talking heads and pseudo-academics praising the Middle East stirrings as democracy movements. We also hear democracy as the description of our own political system. Like the founders of our nation, I find democracy and majority rule a contemptible form of government.
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I doubt it, they all have their own personal agendas which have little or nothing to do with support for Israel.
Yamit, you got that right.
I trust a number of so called supporters of Israel who personally attack you for your views will get the message.
What do you care about elections in America, 2012? Besides BB,
Olmert,Sharon, Barak and livni who else might you be referring about? You said all candidates? We don’t yet know who will be all the candidates in the next elections so I haven’t criticized them yet. Democracy? I have made in the past some negative comments on Democracy but so what? I just look objectively at the results in all countries that practice different forms of Democracy and draw conclusions. I am personally ideologically non-committed. I go for whatever works and realize the reality and necessity of different strokes for different folks.I find it interesting that you can bash your leaders and don sackcloth and ashes over the condition they have caused and created in America yet you criticize me for my opinions about our own state of affairs and the political leaders here who have been responsible for our situation and current condition. I call that hypocrisy at best or worse you want us to be in such a dangerous position as it fits with your base hatred of Jews and eschatological expectations and hopes.
Since Israel is my country and my concern I would from my little corner suggest you mind your own fucking business and never tell me what I am allowed to say or think especially when it comes to Israel. Those of us who live here, live or die on decisions made by our political leaders and I for one have no death wish.
You and yours I could care less about. Maybe if you had been more critical of your own political leaders, Like G W Bush America would not be in her present condition. Your silence, acceptance and passivity of Bush allowed an Obama to become President. Heh but that’s what you call democracy isn’t it?
Behold, thou trustest upon the staff of this bruised reed, even upon Egypt; whereon if a man lean, it will go into his hand, and pierce it; so is Pharaoh king of Egypt to all that trust on him.
BB’s dilemma? British worry me, says Israeli PM Netanyahu
The Israeli prime minister tells Charles Moore of his ‘great hope and anxiety’ over the Middle East.
Netanyahu told the Daily Telegraph that Israel’s reluctance to abandon the settlements has to do with Sudetenland affair, when the world powers told Czechoslovakia that it had to abandon a part of itself to Germany in order to preserve peace.
That analogy is unsustainable because Israel is more powerful than the PA, while Czechoslovakia was somewhat weaker than Germany.
The Israeli PM cannot bring himself to state the only reason why we cannot abandon the settlements: because the Maker of the Universe gave this land to us.
Yamit,
What do you care about elections? Not only do you speak against all the candidates, but you speak against democracy as well. You’re just a troublemaker. Go sit in the corner.
When the rats start to jump overboard the end is in sight. Elections this year.
Fear and loathing in the Netanyahu government
The fact that Uzi Arad, Netanyahu’s longest-serving and most senior aide, chose to abandon him expresses his lack of trust in the prime minister.
I see no reason to believe that Bibi or Israel will behave rationally; but I pray they will.
@Mr Belman,
Given the new Middle East context, Bibi won’t take any decisions with the quartet.
Former head of Mossad declaresd on Galei Tsahal that the new Middle east will be more islamic and in constant turmoil
All the reasons for Israel to keep control of Judea-Samaria -Golan ridges + Jordan Valley