16 Muslim Countries Endorse China Forcing Muslims to Eat Pork

By Daniel Greenfield, FPM

The war of letters began when 22 countries penned a letter to the United Nations Human Rights Council condemning China’s treatment of Uighurs and “other Muslim and minorities communities.”

The letter in defense of Muslim Uighurs in Xinjiang was signed by France, Germany, Canada, Sweden and 18 other, mostly Western and European, countries. The case of the missing Muslim signatories was solved when the People’s Republic of China fired back with its own letter signed by 37 countries.

This letter in defense of China’s crackdown on Islam was signed by 16 Muslim countries.

While some of the Muslim signatories were drawn from African countries, the letter was also signed by ambassadors for the leading Arab governments including Qatar, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Syria, and Kuwait. Pakistan, the world’s second largest Muslim country, also signed on.

While Western governments wailed about Muslim human rights in China, the leading Sunni nations of the world signed off on a letter praising “China’s remarkable achievements in the field of human rights.” Mandatory abortions, organ harvesting and the mass murder of millions are remarkable achievements.

No doubt about it.

The world’s top Muslim governments didn’t just settle for abstract praise of China’s human rights. Instead they explicitly defended China’s crackdown on Muslims in Xinjiang.

“Faced with the grave challenge of terrorism and extremism, China has undertaken a series of counter-terrorism and de-radicalization measures in Xinjiang, including setting up vocational education and training centers,” the letter reads. “The past three consecutive years has seen not a single terrorist attack in Xinjiang and people there enjoy a stronger sense of happiness, fulfillment and security.”

The war of letters humiliated Western governments which had failed to convince a single Muslim country to sign on to a letter criticizing China’s crackdown on Muslims. And they humiliated the Muslim signatories who demonstrated that China could intimidate them into endorsing a crackdown on Islam.

The People’s Republic of China’s idea of de-radicalization measures had allegedly included forcing Muslims to drink alcohol and eat pork, a ban on beards, hijabs and the name Mohammed.

Even Qatar, whose Al Jazeera propaganda outlet has broadcast claims of Islamist oppression in Xinjiang, was finally forced to sign on to a letter that effectively disavowed what its own media has been saying.

The Uyghur Muslims are a Turkic minority, its Islamists had sought to set up a separatist Turkic Islamic state, and the Islamist regime in Turkey had been vocal about their cause. Erdogan, the Islamist thug running Turkey, had in the past accused China of genocide. This year, the spokesman for Turkey’s foreign ministry had described China’s crackdown on Islamists as a “great cause of shame for humanity”. The spokesman had accused China of engaging in torture and brainwashing in concentration camps.

But then Erdogan, the most aggressive national exponent of Islamist causes in the region, visited China, and declared, “It is a fact that the peoples of China’s Xinjiang region live happily in China’s development and prosperity.” Then he told critics to keep quiet to avoid spoiling Turkey’s relationship with the PRC.

The People’s Republic of China had attained the complicity of the world’s most vocal Turkish nationalist in its crackdown on Turkic nationalism and won the support of the tyrant who had transformed Turkey from a secular democracy into an Islamist banana republic for its enforced secularization of Muslims.

It’s hard to imagine a greater diplomatic triumph.

Finally, the letters humiliated the United States, which had not signed on to either one, but, despite providing protection and billions of dollars in foreign aid to Muslim countries, has been repeatedly attacked for its limited counterterrorism efforts which fall far short of anything that the PRC has done.

Qatar, Pakistan, Turkey and Saudi Arabia have long been thorns in America’s side, backing Islamic terrorists abroad, funding subversion within the United States, and criticizing our counterterrorism.

What does China have that we don’t?

Few of the 16 Muslim countries on the list are worried about the PRC’s military force. Instead, the Communist dictatorship has effectively leveraged its economic power in its national interest.

It has also made it clear that it will not tolerate criticism of its domestic policies.

China was able to get not only Muslim countries, but the worldwide sponsors of Islamism, to sign on to its letter because they understood that crossing the PRC would carry a serious economic price.

The United States hands out foreign aid and trade agreements to countries no matter what they do.

After getting caught harboring Osama bin Laden, we’re still dispensing at least $370 million in foreign aid to Pakistan. That’s down from $2.7 billion at the height of the Obama era. But still no small sum.

The PRC would never dole out $370 million to a country involved in undermining its national security.

But in the United States, cutting off foreign aid to a country, no matter how awful, is nearly impossible. The worse a country treats us, the harder we work to win that country over with extensive outreach.

The US Combined Air Operations Center continues to sit at Al Udeid Air Base despite the Qataris spending decades demonstrating to us that they will back the very Jihadist operators we are fighting. We began using the base even after a member of the Qatari royal family got caught harboring Khalid Shaikh Mohammad, the Al Qaeda mastermind of the September 11 attacks.

The People’s Republic of China doesn’t view insults and threats as an incentive for outreach. Instead it uses its economic clout to reward or punish countries based on how those countries treat it.

Of all the many derivative shiny products coming out of China, that’s one we might want to copy.

American diplomacy has a fantastic track record of failure. The only thing it ever really seems to succeed at is giving away money and abandoning our national interests to pursue meaningless global goals.

That includes our own feeble efforts to agitate on behalf of the Islamists in Xinjiang.

The PRC does not dedicate its diplomacy to saving the planet, ending all wars, or any of the delusional nonsense that occupies American diplomats in between expensive lunches and pointless conferences. Its diplomacy is a blunt instrument meant to achieve simple ends. And, that makes it far more effective.

The war of letters demonstrated that China could recruit 16 Muslim countries to endorse forcing Muslims to eat pork, while Western countries couldn’t get even one to sign on in opposition.

That diplomatic humiliation should be educational. Sadly, it won’t teach the Europeans anything.

But there are important lessons in the war of letters for America.

America spends a great deal of time worrying about being loved. Our diplomacy is meant to convince the world to love us. China does not need to be loved. It never apologizes for its strength.

We should stop apologizing for our strength. And start putting our national interests first.

Daniel Greenfield is a Shillman Journalism Fellow at the David Horowitz Freedom Center. This article previously appeared at the Center’s Front Page Magazine.

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  1. Hi, Buzz

    I just read a propagandist article and photo in Xinua, about a large demonstration in Sydney “in support of One China, etc.” Here’s what I found in the relevant article in The Australian:

    “Hong Kong protest tensions heat up in Australia
    [AFP]
    “AFP•August 17, 2019

    Pro-China demonstrators march through Sydney in response to rallies in support of the Hong Kong protestors (AFP Photo/Saeed KHAN)
    Tensions over the Hong Kong protests have flared in Australia, with rival pro-China and pro-democracy demonstrations (AFP Photo/Saeed KHAN)

    Pro-China demonstrators march through Sydney in response to rallies in support of the Hong Kong protestors
    Pro-China demonstrators march through Sydney in response to rallies in support of the Hong Kong protestors (AFP Photo/Saeed KHAN)

    Hundreds of pro-China demonstrators marched through Sydney Saturday in response to a growing number of rallies in support of the Hong Kong democracy protests as tensions between the two groups increasingly flare in Australia.

    They marched through the city chanting “One China”, waving the Chinese flag and holding placards saying “Stop riots end violence in Hong Kong”.

    “There has been a lot of violence and violent protests in Hong Kong,” Sydney-based lawyer and rally organiser who asked only to be called Zhao told AFP. “And Hong Kong people have suffered from that and we want to voice our call for peace and order in Hong Kong.”

    Police had to escort a lone pro-democracy supporter from the Sydney event after he was set upon by a mob of angry demonstrators.

    With the Asian financial hub plunged into crisis by months of pro-democracy protests, several small public rallies of support by Hong Kong students have been held at Australian universities.

    These have angered some mainland Chinese students and have led to several heated confrontations and scuffles on campus.

    China’s Brisbane consulate praised the “spontaneous patriotism” of pro-Beijing students after a clash at one university.

    It immediately drew a sharp rebuke from Canberra, which warned diplomats against undermining fundamental rights or “encouraging disruptive or potentially violent behaviour”.

    On Friday, the protests moved from the campus to the streets, drawing much larger numbers with hundreds rallying in support of the Hong Kong democracy movement in major cities across Australia.

    Police had to break up heated confrontations in Melbourne and Sydney after pro-China activists arrived.

    “We understand that there will be different ideas,” pro-Hong Kong democracy rally leader Dennis Chui told AFP, after a small number of Chinese nationalist activists confronted demonstrators Friday.

    “(But) freedom and democracy are core values in Australia and we have to respect this,” he added.”

    You can see that the PR China offical version is extremely one-sided.

  2. @ Buzz of the Orient:
    Hello, Buzz

    You’re not doing a very good job of propping up President Xi’s shaky regime. At the moment, they’re having trouble keeping the cap on literally millions of Hong Kongers who are livid at the repression of pro-democracy protestors there by their Beijing owners and controllers.

    I know you get virtually zero news where you are, outside of the official party line. They have been working overtime, to come up with a false narrative that the people of Hong Kong are “terrorists”. Their latest plan, is to stage a “spontaneous patriotic” demonstration in Beijing — at Tianamen Square, appropriately.

  3. There are mosques in China and Muslims pray there. I wonder if anyone would like to try to build a synagogue in a Muslim country, but oh, China is the most evil country in the world, eh?

  4. The Hong Kong protests and overbearing police response are well into their third month. Of course this affects my family, some of whom are trapped there; but there is much more happening in Xi’s determined drive to cement his personal power:

    “he Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has continued its clampdown on religious activities in the country, banning a number of Christian summer camps organized for children.

    “In the past several years, the communist government under party leader Xi Jinping has taken steps to prevent children from receiving religious instruction, forbidding children from entering Christian churches or joining Christian groups, barring access to universities for churchgoing youth, and even forcing kindergarten pupils to sign an atheist manifesto, abjuring religious activities of any sort.

    “Chinese authorities have justified their action by claiming that church attendance and religious instruction keep young persons from developing “a correct worldview and set of values.”

    ““Minors receiving religious education and formation too early in churches would seriously affect the normal implementation of the education system,” declared one notice from officials.

    “This summer, Catholics have had to cancel summer camps and disguise bible classes to avoid punishment from Chinese authorities…

    — more at https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2019/08/14/chinese-communists-ban-christian-summer-camps/

    This has been going on quietly, behind the scenes. To the Fascist dictator Xi, it’s just one of many problems:

    “Xi spent much of 2018 crushing dissent within China itself: parents outraged his government allowed pharmaceutical companies to use expired vaccines on their children, war veterans demanding their rightful pensions, Muslims fighting their families’ disappearances into concentration camps, laborers demanding basic workers’ rights from a Marxist state, and Maoist college students urging disentanglement with multinational corporations, among others…”

    https://www.breitbart.com/asia/2019/08/15/where-xi-jinping-chinas-top-communist-mia-hong-kong-struggle/

    In the US, Pew Research has found that negative attitudes toward Xi and China are at a 60-year low (That’s back to 1959: We had a more favorable attitude toward Chairman Mao and the Red Guards!).

    As a major backer of Israel’s enemies, events in China should not be completely ignored by Israel and the Jews.

  5. The protests in HK are impressive. The police have been intensifying their use of teargas, impacting mostly innocent bystanders. The pro-democracy protestors themselves, who are very numerous,

    https://static01.nyt.com/images/2019/08/11/world/11hongkong15/merlin_159146613_5e282afb-fb7f-4c7c-9fd2-a00d62f27318-jumbo.jpg?quality=90&auto=webp

    disperse from the teargas and quickly re-form in other parts of the city. This catches the police off-guard. Interestingly, this is being reported by the New York Times, but not by Fox. President Trump has been silent on Hong Kong. but the Communist Chinese blame the protests on the US.

  6. The Hong Kong protests are continuing into their third month. Western media is largely silent about this, while the Chinese have replaced credible news with non-stop sate propaganda:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/aug/11/hong-kong-china-unrest-beijing-media-response

    Also un- and under-reported, 10,000 Taiwanese demonstrated in support of their Hong Kong brethren:

    https://www.theepochtimes.com/in-taiwan-over-10000-people-attend-rally-to-support-hong-kong-protest-against-extradition-bill_2966144.html

    Vietnamese and Philippines media are apparently silent on the Hong Kong situation. At one point, up to 2,000,000 Hong Kongers were out in the streets, protesting.

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-16/protests-swell-as-hong-kong-rejects-leader-s-compromise

    3,000 Hong Kong lawyers also marched in support of the protestors:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbOPBprbxCE

  7. @ Buzz of the Orient:Hopefully Hong Kong will not end up like Tibet. The Chinese know the world is watching so hopefully that will help.
    1.2 Million out of 6 million Tibetitan’s have been killed. 6000 Monasteries destroyed.

    Tiananmen Square massacre hopefully will not be repeated in Hong Kong.

    Until 1949, Tibet was an independent Buddhist nation in the Himalayas which had little contact with the rest of the world. It existed as a rich cultural storehouse of the Mahayana and Vajrayana teachings of Buddhism. Religion was a unifying theme among the Tibetans — as was their own language, literature, art, and world view developed by living at high altitudes, under harsh conditions, in a balance with their environment.

    The Dalai Lama, an individual said to be an incarnation of the Buddha of Compassion, had been both the political and spiritual leader of the country. The current Dalai Lama (the 14th) was only 24 years old when this all came to an end in 1959. The Communist Chinese invasion in 1950 led to years of turmoil, that culminated in the complete overthrow of the Tibetan Government and the self-imposed exile of the Dalai Lama and 100,000 Tibetans in 1959.

    Since that time over a million Tibetans have been killed. With the Chinese policy of resettlement of Chinese to Tibet, Tibetans have become a minority in their own country. Chinese is the official language. Compared to pre-1959 levels, only 1/20 monks are still allowed to practice, under the government’s watch. Up to 6,000 monasteries and shrines have been destroyed. Famines have appeared for the first time in recorded history, natural resources are devastated, and wildlife depleted to extinction. Tibetan culture comes close to being eradicated there.

    Peaceful demonstrations/protests/speech/writings by nuns, monks, and Tibetan laypeople have resulted in deaths and thousands of arrests. These political prisoners are tortured and held in sub-standard conditions, with little hope of justice. Unless we can all take part and recognize Tibet’s loss as our own, the future looks grim.

    http://www.umass.edu/rso/fretibet/education.html

  8. @ Bear Klein:
    Hi, Bear

    My wife and I pray several times a day for our family in China, because they are in danger. The US State Department has just raised the advisory level for US Citizens in China.

  9. @ Adam Dallgiesh:
    “My experience is that comfortably off people in any part of the world think their government and their society as a whole are fine. And that as long as they feel safe, it doesn’t matter to them if there are others who feel, and are, unsafe.”

    I think you’ve described Buzzy the Xiist

  10. @ Buzz of the Orient:Buzz, I doubt if you would feel that way if you had the misfortune to be a Uighur or a Tibetan. Or one of the millions of Chinese peasants driven off their lands by government policies. Ot the millions of workers who are overworked, underpaid and work in dangerous conditions. Or one of the sick people who can’t get treated in Chinese hospitals without paying a bribe to someone to be admitted.

    My experience is that comfortably off people in any part of the world think their government and their society as a whole are fine. And that as long as they feel safe, it doesn’t matter to them if there are others who feel, and are, unsafe.

    I remember living in New York in the 1980s, when there were homeless people sleeping on the street alol over Manhattan, where I was living. There were homeless people sleeping on the doorstep of my apartment building, and sometimes in the lobby as well. But when I alluded to this at a Shabbes dinner at the Union Theological Seminary, one of the other diners denied it, saying “I have lived in New York all my life and I have never seen a single person sleeping on the street.” It turned out that he lived in one of the fashionable, upscale neighborhoods in Queens.

  11. @ Michael S:

    I’m entitled to an opinion, and I don’t feel it’s necessary to slander you in the way you seem to need to do to make a point. So in your and other’s opinion it is better to live with a constant danger of violence and terrorism as they are doing in most of the world, rather than to make sure that everyone is safe and has no fear of being caught in it. For example, I would no longer step one foot in the USA unless I was wearing a suit of armour, but I feel absolutely safe living in Chongqing where NOBODY HAS A GUN (except the military, some police and bank money delivery guards). When my daughter was on her birthright trip to Israel, fortunately she was not standing near her classmate Marni Kimelman when she stepped on a pipe bomb on the Tel Aviv beach, and fortunately when my son was studying in Jerusalem he slept in instead of having his usual morning coffee at the outdoor cafe in front of his building when it was blown up. And fortunately I was not on the bus that blew up actually shaking the Sheraton Hotel like an earthquake where I was staying on one of my trips to Israel, but I really don’t care if that’s the way YOU want to live.

    Sure, there are censorship issues in China but I get to see or read pretty well all the news that happens around the world. So I can’t use google, and I can’t use Facebook. That’s no loss to me. Living without fear of terrorism is more important to me.

  12. The people of Hong Kong who had been used to freedom are protesting non stop now to get their freedoms. They do not want to end up like the mainland UN-free. I personally value freedom and would not want to live in a place like China.

    I’ve fought China’s slow-motion genocide of Uighur Muslims. Now, my family are victims. Rushan Abbas , Opinion contributor Published 5:00 a.m. ET May 9, 2019 | Updated 12:47 a.m. ET May 10, 2019

    Chinese officials used to only bulldoze mosques and force Muslim men to shave their beards. Now, they throw us in concentration camps.

    The world is finally waking up to the ongoing and terrifying violations of human rights against the Uighurs — a Muslim minority in Northwest China. My own family is victim to these violations. As both an American citizen and a Uighur, this disaster has ravaged my heart, and shaken me to my very core.

    Last September, six days after I spoke about China’s human rights abuses at the Hudson Institute, Chinese police abducted my sister and aunt from their homes. My family members, who both live in Xinjiang but hundreds of miles apart, were abducted on the same day, as a tactic to silence me and stop my activism in the United States. The government has seized the family members of other Uighur Americans who speak out about their human rights violations — attempting to control and silence us in the United States, as they control and silence our families in China.

    My Uighur American niece and I found out about the abductions through some of our remaining contacts in Xinjiang, but members of my family are not the only ones suffering.
    China’s long history of repression

    I grew up within the rich culture of the Uighurs, in a region occupied by Communist China known as Xinjiang (also known as East Turkestan). I witnessed the repression of the Cultural Revolution at a young age — my grandfather was jailed and my father was taken to a reeducation camp. As a student in Xinjiang University, I was one of the organizers in pro-democracy demonstrations in the mid- and late-1980s. When I came to America in 1989, I brought my ideals and experiences with me. Since then, I have consistently campaigned for the human rights of my people by dedicating much of my life to writing and advocating on their behalf.
    The author in Atush, China, a city in Xinjiang, in 1988.

    The author in Atush, China, a city in Xinjiang, in 1988. (Photo: Family handout)

    In Xinjiang, our mosques and religious sites have been bulldozed by a government committed to eradicating our culture. Parents are banned from naming their children traditional Muslim names, and Muslim men are forced to shave their beards. Uighurs are threatened even after death: In an attempt to eradicate our burial and funeral traditions, the Chinese government is building crematoriums.

    As many as 3 million people, out of a population of about 11 million, may be imprisoned in concentration camps in Xinjiang, according to the U.S. Department of Defense. The Chinese government claims that these facilities (there could be as many as 44 camps) are vocational training centers teaching courses such as tailoring, electronic assembly and the Chinese language. But the truth is these are nothing less than modern concentration camps, complete with armed guards, forced labor and barbed-wire fences. Inside, prisoners are indoctrinated with Communist Party propaganda, forced to renounce Islam, and have been forced to eat pork and drink alcohol in violation of their religious beliefs.

    full article at https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2019/05/09/uighur-chinese-human-rights-violations-concentration-camps-column/1143252001/

  13. @ Michael S:
    Way to end THAT dialogue – call a person an idiot. Unfortunately I’d be banned from this site if I replied as deserved by you.

  14. @ Buzz of the Orient:
    Buzz,

    I have been to China; my family has been living there longer than you have, and you seem to be either a Xiist dupe or a total idiot.

    BTW Have you realized why you can’t open the link I sent? You live in one of the most censored countries in the world. I think it’s time for you to come up for air.

  15. @ Michael S:
    It positively amazes me how people who have never been to China think it’s back to a Chairman Mao regime. Look at the mass murders, the terrorism in America – while no civilian in China even HAS a gun, and in my opinion, and obviously Ted’s, China knows how to make sure terrorism is severely limited – stopped before it even begins. I feel safer here than I could ever feel in the USA, or even Canada these days due to Trudeau’s policies.

  16. @ Ted Belman:
    Ted,

    Emulating China translates into becoming a Stalinist regime, complete with gulags. That certainly is NOT the way to save the West. The “West”, which increasingly means the USA can be saved by upholding our democratic and republican institutions, hailing back to the Magna Carta and the US Constitution, as well as our Christian religious heritage. This is what we have done successfully for hundreds of years.

  17. @ Ted Belman: Goodness, Ted, that’s a very tall order to put on the shoulders of a 70-year-old struggling to survive on a tiny social security pension, with no political influence or connections whatsoever!

    However, I do have some ideas: Make it a crime to incite racial and religious hatred, and enforce it against mosque preachers. Allow preventive detention of individuals who have been in contact with known jihadist organizations and web sites. Hold all jihadists captured as prisoners of war until international jihad definitely ended. Prevent the use of encryption on the web without a licence to use it for legitimate businesses. Require all producers of encription software to enable law enforcement to decipher all encryption’s and break into encrypted sites (with a legitimate court order). Jail even wealthy businessmen who refuse to comply with this legal requirement. Hold tech giants liable in civil lawsuits if they host cites that recruit terrorists and cause death or injury to people. Prevent immigration from countries (Muslim or not) infected by widespread terrorism, lacking a functioning central government, occupied by jihadist or other forces, etc.

    Impose economic sanctions on all states that encourage or finance terrorism. Also, all major human rights violators (China; possibly Russia; definitely Iran and Turkey). Take military action against some of these regimes, especially Iran and Turkey, and possibly Qatar. Ban American nonprofits, including mosques, from receiving donations from countries known to harbor radical Islamist and jihadist organizations, including Saudi Arabia. Put heavy pressure on the Saudis and the other Gulf states to end funding of radical madrassas. End aid to Pakistan immediately, and impose economic sanctions on it until it hands over all al-Qaida people that it is harboring, and supresses al of the terrorist groups on its soil, and removes terrrorist collaborators from its armed forces and intelligence services.

    Threaten European states with sanctions until they end all support for anti-Israel regimes and organizations, and crack down on antisemitic terrorism within their borders.

    End all support for UNWRA and all other anti-Israel branches of the UN.

    I’m sure there is much more that could be done. But you get the general idea. No need to ban Islam as such. Not practical or feasible. In any case, I believe in freedom of religion, provided people behave themselves and respect all civil laws.

  18. Turning into mass murderers and setting up concentration camps is surely not an answer to solve any problem. The thought of emulating China is simply wrong.

    Trump had an immigration concept that would be good for the USA. Immigration should be based on a point system. More points for people with professions that are needed. More points for people that speak English. Direct family relationships get points but less than those for people in need.

    People who immigrate to the USA would be screened to try and ascertain if they share common values and love the USA. If they do not and are not willing to swear a loyalty oath they would be excluded. Also people from enemy states would have difficulty in emigrating to the USA.

    The USA needs to implement the above system. Immigration into Europe needs to by country by country and I suggest they set up similar systems as would fit each country.

    Also each country needs to establish systems like Israel has were they find terrorists before they strike and establish mandated holds. The USA needs to also do this.

  19. @ Adam Dalgliesh:

    I absolutely stand with Ted Belman on this. And I speak not as a person who does not live in China and only reads or sees biased news stories about China, but as a person who has been living in China for, as of today, exactly 13 years. I have joined the Kaifeng Jews in a Shabbat service and dinner. I have known and even taught many Muslims here – and all are peaceful and non-complaining about the government. I have lived in three different cities here, and there is absolutely no problem with Muslims maintaining mosques in any of them, and I prefer eating in the many Muslim restaurants because I prefer eating lamb, which is their specialty.

    China has experienced violence and insurrection, even terrorism among the Uighurs, and in my opinion are doing the right thing in making sure that such civil disobedience is nipped in the bud, doing whatever is necessary to prevent it. China does not tolerate the kind of Islamist violence and terrorism that is so common throughout the western world – the many incidents in France, Germany, England, even occasionally in the USA. Think about the Jews in Malmo. In fact, just think about the Jews in Israel.

    Buzz of the Orient

  20. Islam per se has not been banned in China. Many non-Uighur mosques outside Sinkiang remain open and worship in them is continuing. In Beijing, halal food markets are still permitted, although they are not allowed to use Arabic language signs, and must use only a Chinese word for “halal.”Maybe that is one reason why the Muslim world has not condemned China. The Uighurs as an ethnic group may be considered expendable, as long as Islam per se is not banned throughout China.

  21. @ Ted Belman: Ted, the Chinese genocide in Sinkiang is directed not against Muslims as such, but at the Uighurs as an ethnic/national group. One million in concentration camps. Whole , vast neighborhoods inhabited by Uighurs dynamited and their inhabitants moved out…to somewhere. The Uighur language, at least written, banned. Uighur-owned markets closed. Huge number so police on every block in the former Uighur capital. Even folk dances by Uighur women (performing in public without head-covering, contrary to Islamic law) banned. Traditional Uighur clothes banned. Sounds awfully like Nazi German destruction of the Jews.

  22. @ Michael S:
    Here’s what I think. Islam is a serious danger to western society and norms. The west is mistaken in embracing it. I am referring to jihad, stealth or otherwise. The west should recognize this by forcing the Muslims to change or expelling them. That’s the only choice.

    Why would you equate Muslems with Jews. Jews and Judaism are no threat to the west, just the opposite. The Muslims and Islam are a proven threat. The West with its liberalism has shown itself incapable of dealing with the threat.. China, on the otherhand is is committed to an opposite approach.

    Michael S Said:

    Xinjiang has been majority non-Chinese, since the beginning of time.

    But it hasn’t been Muslim since the beginning of time. Islam conquered many peoples and countries and forcibly converted them to Islam. China is simply undoing their dirty work.

    Remember the cultural revolution in China under Mao. Mao led a brutal war against “revisionists”. In a way what is happening to the Muslims is child’s play compared to the treatment of “revisionists” by Mao. But the purpose is the same.

  23. @ Michael S:

    My son-in-law specializes in the meat trade, and is familiar with all the methods of slaughter, including kosher and halal. He has had to change careers this year, because of the government crackdown on halal foods.

    What does that mean? His involvement with Halal slaughter? Really?

    And you do talk to him?

  24. @ Michael S:
    Ted,

    I have a disclaimer to make: I have a personal stake in the Uighurs of Xinjiang, and other Chinese Muslims. My son-in-law specializes in the meat trade, and is familiar with all the methods of slaughter, including kosher and halal. He has had to change careers this year, because of the government crackdown on halal foods. Even so, one should consider before approving what the Chinese are doing: It may be the Uighurs suffering today at their hands; but the Chinese have long arms; and it could easily be Jews who suffer next because of them.

  25. @ Jim:
    Jim.

    China is not “fending off aggressors” in Xinjiang. Xinjiang has been majority non-Chinese, since the beginning of time.

  26. @ Ted Belman:
    Ted, you’re way out of line. Adam is not “siding with Islam”, any more than you are by chumming up with Mudar Zahran.

    Do you think we should be like the Chinese? Should we send agents to Jewish homes, to make sure Jews don’t eat kosher? Should we send them to concentration camps? Outlandish!

  27. @ Adam Dalgliesh:

    China has been fending off Islamic aggressors for a thousand years. Those Islamists have done the same to Han Chinese in the past, so this is mere reciprocity.

    China has a right to defend it’s culture and sovereign territory.

  28. Brilliant analysis by David Greenfield.

    Forcing Muslims to eat pork and banning the name Muhammed are the least of Peking’s sins against the Uighurs. One million of them are reported to be in concentration camps, including women and children. The entire “native” quarter of the Uighur capital of Sinking has been dynamited and the entire population deported somewhere or other. “Native” Uighur markets have been closed, books in the Uighur language have been banned, signs in the Uighur language banned. Huge high-rise buildings have been constructed over the ruins of dynamited Uighur neighhborhoods, presumably to house hordes of imported Chinese settlers and Chinese businesses, plus “security” offices. This is somewhere between cultural genocide and outright phyical genocide.

    If the U.S. had any gumption in would ban all trade with this genocidal regime, and refuse to resume trade until the genocide of the Uighurs and the long-standing opperssion of the Tibetans ends. Only by bringing about the overthrow of this regime, which combines exppansionist ambitions abroad with its totalitarian-genocidal policies at home, can war with China be averted.

  29. “But then Erdogan, the most aggressive national exponent of Islamist causes in the region, visited China, and declared, “It is a fact that the peoples of China’s Xinjiang region live happily in China’s development and prosperity.” Then he told critics to keep quiet to avoid spoiling Turkey’s relationship with the PRC.”

    This is just raw treachery. Erdogan is throwing his own Turkic Muslim brothers under the bus, following the lead of the Saudis and Syrians. There isn’t even a show of faithfulness anymore among Muslims. Meanwhile, US Jews side overwhelmingly with the enemies of Israel, the South Koreans have turned against Japan, the US and their own war veterans, the French and Germans are turning against NATO, and the US Democrats are turning against our own law enforcement officers. I don’t know if the world has witness such widespread treachery since, perhaps, the days of Attila the Hun.

    Mic.7
    [2] The good man is perished out of the earth: and there is none upright among men: they all lie in wait for blood; they hunt every man his brother with a net.
    [3] That they may do evil with both hands earnestly, the prince asketh, and the judge asketh for a reward; and the great man, he uttereth his mischievous desire: so they wrap it up.
    [4] The best of them is as a brier: the most upright is sharper than a thorn hedge: the day of thy watchmen and thy visitation cometh; now shall be their perplexity.
    [5] Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a guide: keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom.
    [6] For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter in law against her mother in law; a man’s enemies are the men of his own house.
    [7] Therefore I will look unto the LORD; I will wait for the God of my salvation: my God will hear me.